- From: David Storey <dstorey@opera.com>
- Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 17:01:24 +0100
- To: Luca Passani <passani@eunet.no>
- Cc: Mobile Web Best Practices Working Group WG <public-bpwg@w3.org>
> > >> I guess one difference is that certain proxies the end user chooses >> to use, such as by downloading and using Opera Mini, but it is a >> different ball game for proxies that operators push on the user >> without them selecting it (i.e. given to all mobile browsers). I >> think the former is fine but not so much the latter. > > I think they are both wrong. But since OperaMini tends to be "opt- > in" by nature, it does not bother the rest of the ecosystem as much > as the others. FYI, Opera partnered with ByteMobile, which leverages > Opera's technology to reformat websites exactly as Novarra and all > the others (look at Voda Ireland, for example). Glad to hear that > Opera does not like this model. "I" and "Opera" are not exactly the same thing. I don't doubt it is a solution to a problem, especially when the transcoders are good quality. > > >> >> In regard to the no transform header; this can't work for solutions >> such as Opera Mini, where they only support using a proxy. > > I think OperaMini should stop transcoding HTTPS content Wouldn't work. Opera Mini only supports transcoded content. Without it we'd have to show a screen saying "site not supported" Not exactly good user experience, or what the user wants. If a browser supports both regular html and transcoded content then I personally fully agree, but otherwise we need to serve the content. Opera Mini exists to run on phones that wouldn't support a full browser. Users do also run it on smart phones as it saves the user money in data traffic (and assumably the operator in data traffic costs). > > . > Luca > David Storey Chief Web Opener, Product Manager Opera Dragonfly, Consumer Product Manager Opera Core, W3C Mobile Web Best Practices Working Group member Consumer Product Management & Developer Relations Opera Software ASA Oslo, Norway Mobile: +47 94 22 02 32 E-Mail: dstorey@opera.com Blog: http://my.opera.com/dstorey
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