- From: Francois Daoust <fd@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:32:22 +0200
- To: Mobile Web Best Practices Working Group WG <public-bpwg@w3.org>
Hi,
The minutes of today's meeting are available at:
http://www.w3.org/2008/10/02-bpwg-minutes.html
... and copied as text below.
Francois.
02 Oct 2008
[2]Agenda
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2008Oct/0000.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2008/10/02-bpwg-irc
Attendees
Present
Bryan_Sullivan, Francois, Kai_Dietrich, achuter, aconnors,
bruce, jeffs, jo, miguel
Regrets
Heiko, Yeliz, Manrique, SeanP, Sangwhan, Rob, DKA,
Francois(partial)
Chair
Jo
Scribe
jeffs, jo
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Introductions
2. [6]Korea Task Force
3. [7]Content Transformation
4. [8]Checker Task Force:
5. [9]Updates
6. [10]Accessibility Docs
7. [11]BP 1.5
8. [12]MobileOK Scheme
9. [13]Application Best Bractices
10. [14]Any Other Business
11. [15]MobileOK Pro
12. [16]Any Other Business
* [17]Summary of Action Items
_________________________________________________________
Introductions
Bruce: from Opera, worked on Device Independence
<jo> bruce interested in accessibility
Korea Task Force
<inserted> Jo: No one from Korea is here
Content Transformation
<inserted> Jo: Francois not yet on call, skip for now
Checker Task Force:
<inserted> will have proposed changes for MobileOK not yet agreed,
but expect agreement within next week or so and changes will be made
then
Jo: awaiting feedback from WSC WG
<jo> ACTION: jo to chase WSC WG ref proposed change to mobileOK
Basic [recorded in
[18]http://www.w3.org/2008/10/02-bpwg-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-856 - Chase WSC WG ref proposed change to
mobileOK Basic [on Jo Rabin - due 2008-10-09].
Updates
Accessibility Docs
Jo: Yeliz not on call today, but a number of updates have been
posted today
<jo> [19]Poll
[19]
http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/37584/WAI-Mobile-Experiences/results
Jo: responses currently positive, awaiting more results
<jo> note that all responses to the poll were positive with requests
for minor corrections, Yeliz sent update today, we will review next
week
<achuter>
[20]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/TaskForces/Accessibility/d
rafts/ED-mwbp-wcag-20081002/
[20]
http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/TaskForces/Accessibility/drafts/ED-mwbp-wcag-20081002/
Alan: new editor's draft for accessibility
... main differences: moving section on doing both WCAG and Mobile
<achuter>
[21]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/TaskForces/Accessibility/d
rafts/changelog.html#version_20081002
[21]
http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/TaskForces/Accessibility/drafts/changelog.html#version_20081002
alan: 2nd change re Education and Outreach group
<achuter>
[22]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/TaskForces/Accessibility/d
rafts/ED-mwbp-wcag-20081002/#together
[22]
http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/TaskForces/Accessibility/drafts/ED-mwbp-wcag-20081002/#together
Alan: request for clarification: section on what to do if trying to
accomplish both Mobile Best Practices and WCAG at the same time
... wants feedback from this group
Jo: thinks would be useful to put in more specifics
<jo> scribe: jo
jeffs: has a group meeting on accessibility issue and how to
implement stuff, doesn't want to step on WCAG toes needs to have a
conversation with someone, and concerns about overlapping grousp,
will try to get someone from NTID to join WCAG - Jeff's group will
continue working with someone coming in on Thursday and generally
think this is an interesting problem anyway
... trying to find a more permanent person on WCAG anyway
<scribe> scribe: jeffs
achuter: encouraging getting someone from NTID to join WCAG
<jo> scribe: jo
alan: have the people involved read the overlap doc
jeffs: 3 people from IT dept and 1 from NTID went through current
documents about how they were going to approach it, dense set of
requirements needs addressing in a cherent way
... want to look for concrete approaches for developers with
concrete example code
... mostly have expertise on deafness, but are bringing in other
experts in different disability areas to talk
alan: so we should not hang on for input in the immediate term
jeffs: we would be happy if what we produce is published as an
appendix etc.
<jeffs> scribe: jeffs
<jo> alan: so we should not wait for a new PWD?
jeffs: do not wait
<jo> jeffs: no, but the doc wiull be better later with more concrete
examples
Jo: any other views on this?
<jo> ISSUE: WHat are we going to do about the overlap section in the
accessibility doc? Scrap it?
<trackbot> Created ISSUE-282 - What are we going to do about the
overlap section in the accessibility doc? Scrap it? ; please
complete additional details at
[23]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/issues/282/edit .
[23] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/issues/282/edit
Jo: asks Alan to begin this discussion on the mailing list
<jo> ACTION: chuter to initiate discussion on ISSUE-282 (Overlap)
[recorded in
[24]http://www.w3.org/2008/10/02-bpwg-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-857 - Initiate discussion on ISSUE-282
(Overlap) [on Alan Chuter - due 2008-10-09].
BP 1.5
Jo: Kai sent an example update today, but he's not on call and folks
won't have had time to read it
MobileOK Scheme
Jo: awaiting feedback from Web Security Group on our changes
Application Best Bractices
<jo> [25]Minutes of ABP Editors Meeting
[25] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2008Sep/0090.html
Jo: discussion of meeting last week
Adam: all the issues were turned into actions
Bryan: would like to see set of followups before the face-to-face
... submitted additional items for discussion
... more work to be done, may not have full understanding of Web
Applications compatibility issues
Adam: would like meeting next week to move forward
[discussion of calendaring issues for face-to-face and prep
meetings]
Jo: need to produce documents by early next week so people have
something to read and discuss before face-to-face
... face-to-face objective - get it ready for next public draft
... concerns from Bryan and Adam need to be resolved
... skipping issues-and-actions as not much change since last week
Any Other Business
Jo: face-to-face agenda still being worked on
... get registered ASAP if you are coming to the TPAC
MobileOK Pro
Kai: document out with a few modifications and test cases
... removing pass-fail language
... wants feedback from people
... no new language in re DDC at this point
<jo> [26]Kai's trial version of the new format with only 2 changed
to new format for review
[26] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2008Oct/0001.html
Any Other Business
Jo: no other business
... speaker phone will be available at least part of the time from
the face-to-face, please let us know if you need that
[discussion of best time to have discussion on MWABP as Bryan is in
Osaka]
<jo> conclusion is late morning probably
<jo> for abp
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: chuter to initiate discussion on ISSUE-282 (Overlap)
[recorded in
[27]http://www.w3.org/2008/10/02-bpwg-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: jo to chase WSC WG ref proposed change to mobileOK
Basic [recorded in
[28]http://www.w3.org/2008/10/02-bpwg-minutes.html#action01]
[End of minutes]
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