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RE: Wapforum.org down, new DTD URL?

From: Ed Mitukiewicz <edward.mitukiewicz@orange-ftgroup.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 10:39:24 -0500
To: "'Sean Owen'" <srowen@google.com>, "'Herwig Feichtinger'" <hf@isdn-capi.de>, "'Sullivan, Bryan'" <BS3131@att.com>
Cc: <public-bpwg@w3.org>
Message-ID: <001301c85d0c$f6df28f0$8df9c10a@orange.us>

Sean and Herwig,

I also forwarded this to Bennett Marks (Nokia), who chairs the OMA Browser
Technologies (BT) WG.


-----Original Message-----
From: public-bpwg-request@w3.org [mailto:public-bpwg-request@w3.org] On
Behalf Of Sullivan, Bryan
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 9:14 AM
To: Sean Owen; Herwig Feichtinger
Cc: public-bpwg@w3.org
Subject: RE: Wapforum.org down, new DTD URL?

I forwarded this to the OMA site helpdesk.

Bryan Sullivan | AT&T | Service Standards

-----Original Message-----
From: public-bpwg-request@w3.org [mailto:public-bpwg-request@w3.org] On
Behalf Of Sean Owen
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 11:55 PM
To: Herwig Feichtinger
Cc: public-bpwg@w3.org
Subject: Re: Wapforum.org down, new DTD URL?

That's an interesting question for sure. My first hope is that OMA can
get this URL back up, at least as a redirector, and continue to keep it
up indefinitely as there are no doubt millions of pages out there with
this URL.

I also am willing to bet there is at least one broken application out
there somewhere that is looking for this entire DOCTYPE as given below
when looking for "Mobile Profile 1.0 documents" and might not match a
DOCTYPE without a SYSTEM identifier, when of course the PUBLIC
identifier should be used for that purpose.

My guess is that all the DTDs hosted on openmobilealliance.org are as
up-to-date and official as any on wapforum.org, and that we might all
use those DTDs going forward to avoid issues with the old wapforum.org
domain. I'd love to have a chance to verify that or hear OMA confirm
that and then spread the word -- especially is wapforum.org might not be

I suppose I personally would recommend writing a DOCTYPE that includes a
reference to the openmobilealliance.org DTDs going forward.

(Anybody know of a good OMA contact?)

On Jan 22, 2008 2:27 AM, Herwig Feichtinger <hf@isdn-capi.de> wrote:
> Hi all,
> as mentioned in the Mobile Checker mailing list, the domain 
> www.wapforum.org seems to be down since (at least) yesterday, 
> wapforum.org (without the www. before it) even does no longer resolve 
> at all. So a DTD like
> "http://www.wapforum.org/DTD/xhtml-mobile10.dtd">
> like used in Google's mobile version and in thousands of other XHTML 
> sites would not be useful any longer. Any recommendation from the 
> group, e.g. to simply strip off the URL part in the DTD, shortening it

> to <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//WAPFORUM//DTD XHTML Mobile 1.0//EN"> like

> sometimes done in HTML? Or a replacement for the old URL?
> There seems to be a proper XHTML mobile-profile DTD at:
> http://www.openmobilealliance.org/tech/dtd/xhtml-mobile10.dtd
> An overview of their available DTDs can be found at:
> http://www.openmobilealliance.org/tech/dtd/
> However, I did not find an official statement that this new URL should

> be used instead of the wapforum.org domain.
> Cheers
> Herwig

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