- From: Dominique Hazael-Massieux <dom@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:53:55 +0200
- To: public-bpwg <public-bpwg@w3.org>
Hi,
The minutes of our teleconf today are available at:
http://www.w3.org/2008/08/28-bpwg-minutes.html
This was mostly a warming up call after our August break.
Some reminders:
* register for the upcoming F2F meeting during TPAC 2008 at:
http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2008/
* deadline for discounted rate at the hotel is Sep 8
* get renominated in the group under the new charter by your AC Rep
before September 13, through
http://www.w3.org/2004/01/pp-impl/37584/join
* review, do and update your actions items:
http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/users/my
The group as a whole need to review:
* the accompanying WAI documents on mobile and accessibility:
http://www.w3.org/WAI/mobile/experiences-new.html
http://www.w3.org/WAI/mobile/experiences-format.html
* the draft mobileOK scheme document:
http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/Drafts/mobileOK-Trustmark/20080806.html
* the latest version of the former mobileOK Pro document:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2008Jul/att-0103/ED-mobileOK-pro10-tests-20080731.htm
The minutes are copied as text below.
Dom
Mobile Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference
28 Aug 2008
[2]Agenda
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2008Aug/0030.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2008/08/28-bpwg-irc
Attendees
Present
jeffs, DKA, dom, yeliz, jo, hgerlach, rob_finean, drooks,
Kai_Dietrich, nacho, abel, SeanP, miguel
Regrets
Francois, Adam, Manrique, Murari, AlanC, Scott, Pontus, EdM
Chair
Jo
Scribe
Dan
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Welcome back
2. [6]CT Taskforce Report
3. [7]Korean TF
4. [8]Checker TF
5. [9]Update on Mobile Web Accessibility
6. [10]BP 1.5
7. [11]MobileOK Scheme
8. [12]Applications Best Practices (BP2)
9. [13]ISSUE-222
10. [14]Widgets Requirements Feedback
11. [15]Renewed charter
12. [16]Registration for Cannes F2F
13. [17]f2f?
14. [18]AOB?
15. [19]Issues & Actions Review
* [20]Summary of Action Items
_________________________________________________________
Welcome back
CT Taskforce Report
Jo: I'll give this report. We're in LC for the CT guidelines.
There's been some discussion on the document - quite a lot of which
has been quite useful.
... anyone want to bring up any points that have come out on the
public feedback?
... We'll leave it to the CT task force to consider those points and
respond appropriately.
Korean TF
Jo: We'll skip for the time being since no rep.
Checker TF
Jo: Any updates?
Abel: we have some updates pending - updates of the documentation -
but nothing signifigant.
Update on Mobile Web Accessibility
<hgerlach> apologize, I have2leave
Yeliz: The updated documents are online. Since the last call, EO wg
has reviewed these and they have comments - latest comments are
addressed.
... EO is happy with these documents.
<yeliz> [21]http://www.w3.org/WAI/mobile/experiences-new.html
[21] http://www.w3.org/WAI/mobile/experiences-new.html
<yeliz> [22]http://www.w3.org/WAI/mobile/experiences-format.html
[22] http://www.w3.org/WAI/mobile/experiences-format.html
Jo: these should be considered final, right?
Yeliz: yes.
Jo: Do you have a suggestion, Dan, to make sure people have time to
consider?
DKA: Maybe a web form will help ensure it gets the consideration it
needs?
Jo: Yes makes sense. I'll work with Francois to do this. We should
set a deadline of a couple weeks.
<jo> ACTION: Jo to work with _DAN_ and Francois to set up a web
form, deadline a couple of weeks [recorded in
[23]http://www.w3.org/2008/08/28-bpwg-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-826 - Work with _DAN_ and Francois to set
up a web form, deadline a couple of weeks [on Jo Rabin - due
2008-09-04].
BP 1.5
Jo: Status?
Kai: The last action was to incorporate decisions made in last f2f
meetings - I had concluded no action needed.
Jo: We're waiting for group feedback and consensus - we need a form
maybe?
DKA: We will need to do additional work to turn it from Mok Pro into
BP 1.5
Kai: I've done some of that but it needs feedback from the group.
... I'd like feedback that the format is correct.
... we need a once-over by the group that it's what we want to
publish as a note.
... Should it be "BP 1.5"?
<dom> [24]Latest version of the former mobileOK pro document
[24] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/TaskForces/mobileOKPro/drafts/ED-mobileOK-pro10-tests-20080610
Jo: No that's the short name for "addendum to bp 1.0"
... Let's discuss on list and come back to it next week. I will
raise an issue.
<Kai> dom, that is not the last version. need to look for it in
mail.
<dom> ah, sorry
<jo> ISSUE: Next steps on the conversion of mobileOK Pro to the
Addendum to BP 1.0
<trackbot> Created ISSUE-271 - Next steps on the conversion of
mobileOK Pro to the Addendum to BP 1.0 ; please complete additional
details at
[25]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/issues/271/edit .
[25] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/issues/271/edit
<dom> [26]latest version of former mobileOK pro document (for good)
[26] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2008Jul/att-0103/ED-mobileOK-pro10-tests-20080731.htm
Kai: that [what Dom posted in] is not the correct URL.
... yes that's [the latest Dom posted] is the correct one.
MobileOK Scheme
<dom> [27]mobileOK Scheme
[27] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/Drafts/mobileOK-Trustmark/20080806.html
<dom> [28]Francois' comments on mobileOK scheme
[28] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2008Aug/0022.html
Jo: Just before we closed down for the summer, Phil Archer took a
crack at this document. I then worked on it. Between us we've
created a very rough draft of MobileOK scheme. Some comments from
Francois. I will find some time to knock it into better shape in
next week or so.
... Anything else on MobileOK scheme?
Applications Best Practices (BP2)
Jo: any speakers on BP2?
[crickets]
Jo: ok let's discuss next week.
ISSUE-222
<dom> ISSUE-222?
<trackbot> ISSUE-222 -- TAG Finding on Alternative Representations
-- OPEN
<trackbot>
[29]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/issues/222
[29] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/issues/222
Jo: Communication with TAG on TAG finding on alternate
representations. I've heard informally from the TAG that they've
noted our comments. No formal feedback as things stand. Nothing
really to discuss...
DKA: Does it make sense to have discussion on this at the TPAC?
<dom> should we close issue-222 now? or do we need to keep tracking
it?
Jo: When we get formal feedback we can pursue that.
DKA: We could make an informal ... something...
Jo: Informally yes but not formally informally (formerly).
Dom: I think we only need to keep issues open when there's something
that merits discussion - we've done all we can do so [maybe we
should close the issue].
<jeffs> close it
Jo: Any objections to closing ISSUE-222?
[no objections noted]
<jo> close ISSUE-222
Widgets Requirements Feedback
Jo: Brian formulated some suggestions and sent it over. Most of them
made it in, most were then taken out again. Any other comments?
... We should note this and move on.
Renewed charter
Jo: How long do people have to sign up and what progress has there
been?
Dom: You have to be re-nominated by your AC member otherwise you'll
get kicked out.
[didn't catch list]
<dom> [30]http://www.w3.org/2004/01/pp-impl/37584/join
[30] http://www.w3.org/2004/01/pp-impl/37584/join
<dom> [31]http://www.w3.org/2004/01/pp-impl/37584/status
[31] http://www.w3.org/2004/01/pp-impl/37584/status
<dom> [32]http://www.w3.org/2004/01/pp-impl/37584/discrepancies
[32] http://www.w3.org/2004/01/pp-impl/37584/discrepancies
Dom: Only some of them have renominated.
I've just done Vodafone.
Jo: I think we need an email to go out to folks who have not
renominated.
Dom: There will be a reminder going out in next couple of days.
Jo: For those on the call, please note what Dom said.
Registration for Cannes F2F
f2f?
<dom> [33]current registrants for BPWG F2F at TPAC
[33] http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2008/registrants#mwbp
<dom> [13 registrants so far]
<dom> [discounted rate until September 8
[34]http://www.w3.org/2008/10/TPAC/Overview.html#Hotel ]
[34] http://www.w3.org/2008/10/TPAC/Overview.html#Hotel
DKA: We need to discuss what we hope to achieve at the f2f. What
documents are we hoping to work on? What focused sessions do we
need? What joint sessions do we need to organize (e.g. TAG or
POWDER).
Jo: Needs discussion on the list, etc...
AOB?
[none]
Issues & Actions Review
<dom> ACTION-821?
<trackbot> ACTION-821 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to officialize
the ETSI liasion on the W3C side -- due 2008-07-31 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot>
[35]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/821
[35] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/821
Jo: What do we need to know about the ETSI liaison Dom?
<dom> ACTION-814?
<trackbot> ACTION-814 -- Daniel Appelquist to get back to ETSI in
accordance with above resolution -- due 2008-07-24 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[36]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/814
[36] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/814
Dom: I've done what needs to happen on W3C side to make the liaison
happen. Has the letter gone out to ETSI telling them we accept?
<dom> close ACTION-821
<trackbot> ACTION-821 Officialize the ETSI liasion on the W3C side
closed
Jo: Yes I did that.
... Lack of clarity here.
<dom> close ACTION-814
<trackbot> ACTION-814 Get back to ETSI in accordance with above
resolution closed
Jo: I will follow up with ETSI to find out what's going on.
<jo> ACTION: JO to follow up on what happened to ETSI liaison at
their end [recorded in
[37]http://www.w3.org/2008/08/28-bpwg-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-827 - Follow up on what happened to ETSI
liaison at their end [on Jo Rabin - due 2008-09-04].
<dom> ACTION-825?
<trackbot> ACTION-825 -- Jo Rabin to send final draft ref ISSUE-222
in 1 week -- due 2008-08-07 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[38]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/825
[38] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/825
Jo: Has anyone heard anything from Chaals over the last few weeks?
DKA: I can confirm he's alive.
<dom> ACTION-801?
<trackbot> ACTION-801 -- Daniel Appelquist to thanks Chaals for
producing the draft of mok scheme, to apologise on the group's
behalf for not responding sooner and to draw his attention to the
resolution taken on its contents -- due 2008-07-31 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[39]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/801
[39] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/801
<dom> might be closable
Jo: You did that, didn't you, Dan.
<dom> close ACTION-801
<trackbot> ACTION-801 Thanks Chaals for producing the draft of mok
scheme, to apologise on the group's behalf for not responding sooner
and to draw his attention to the resolution taken on its contents
closed
DKA: yes. I did.
<jo> close ACTION-801
<trackbot> ACTION-801 Thanks Chaals for producing the draft of mok
scheme, to apologise on the group's behalf for not responding sooner
and to draw his attention to the resolution taken on its contents
closed
<dom> close ACTION-822
<trackbot> ACTION-822 Respond to Shawn to say we are looking at it
and will get back to them when we get back from the break closed
<dom> close ACTION-825
<trackbot> ACTION-825 Send final draft ref ISSUE-222 in 1 week
closed
ACTION-799
ACTION-799?
<trackbot> ACTION-799 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to get back to
rigo on updating the mobileOK license -- due 2008-07-24 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[40]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/799
[40] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/799
<jeffs> I have 1
Dom: I did that but still pending.
ACTION-820?
<trackbot> ACTION-820 -- Jeffrey Sonstein to look at providing
examples for accessibility document -- due 2008-08-28 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[41]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/820
[41] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/820
Jeff: I finally located someone from our national technical
institute for the deaf who can work with me on this.
... please leave it in pending.
Jo: Thanks all.
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: JO to follow up on what happened to ETSI liaison at
their end [recorded in
[42]http://www.w3.org/2008/08/28-bpwg-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Jo to work with _DAN_ and Francois to set up a web
form, deadline a couple of weeks [recorded in
[43]http://www.w3.org/2008/08/28-bpwg-minutes.html#action01]
[End of minutes]
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