RE: test against Gmail

Rhys

I take your point, and Rotan's, and think that you both eloquently make a
case for removing the prescription that the default experience provided by a
mobileOK site should be a mobile one. If the text of mobileOK is to be
adjusted to reflect this sentiment, then it would be a good idea for that to
be done asap, I think. Hopefully either you or he will raise an issue to
that effect. 

On the narrower point of 'does the checker check mobile only sites?' I
assume that the W3C checker sends the 'W3C mobileOK DDC' user agent header,
so a site should have no difficulty in choosing a mobileOK experience in
this case.

Cheers
Jo

> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-bpwg-request@w3.org [mailto:public-bpwg-request@w3.org] On
> Behalf Of Rhys Lewis
> Sent: 04 December 2006 10:08
> To: Jo Rabin; public-bpwg@w3.org
> Subject: RE: test against Gmail
> 
> 
> Hi Jo,
> 
> The phrase 'if the nature of the user agent cannot reliably be determined'
> is the problem. It turns out that there are lots of user agents out there
> with odd signatures. They might be robots, or custom versions of
> mainstream browsers, or other things, but they all expect desktop content.
> 
> Hence, application developers experienced in the art of supporting mobile
> and non-mobile devices default to sending desktop content if the UA can't
> be identified. That's excellent practice for mainstream multi-channel
> applications, like GMail, but is not good practice in terms of MWI BP or
> for sites that concentrate more on supporting mobile devices than on
> supporting crawlers or customised browsers. It's really a decision for the
> site owners on which they would rather do.
> 
> Cheers
> Rhys
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-bpwg-request@w3.org [mailto:public-bpwg-request@w3.org] On
> Behalf Of Jo Rabin
> Sent: 04 December 2006 09:15
> To: public-bpwg@w3.org
> Subject: RE: test against Gmail
> 
> 
> 
> > So you could argue that it is inappropriate to test Gmail using the
> > checker since it does so much more than just mobile support. The
> > checker tells you if you are mobileONLY.
> >
> 
> >From mobileOK Basic: "mobileOK says nothing about what may be delivered
> >to
> non-mobile devices from that URI; however, note that a mobileOK URI must
> return mobileOK content by default if the nature of the user agent cannot
> reliably be determined".
> 
> So I don't think the above is correct. I think the checker checks that in
> certain circumstances a site provides a mobileOK experience. I don't see
> that its results are valid only if a site provides _only_ a mobile
> experience.
> 
> Jo
> 
> 
>

Received on Monday, 4 December 2006 10:38:37 UTC