- From: Magnus Lönnroth <magnus.lonnroth@drutt.com>
- Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 09:17:05 +0100
- To: "Tom Hume" <Tom.Hume@futureplatforms.com>
- Cc: <public-bpwg@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <AE5206456B17D140876BD091993CD49A95F369@indus.drutt.net>
> 1. The document states that its "primary goal is to improve the user > experience of the Web when accessed from mobile devices.". Does this > imply that there are many situations where the document doesn't seek > to apply? I hope so. In my opinion focus should be on mobile devices browsing THE web. For that you need HTML and HTTP. I personally do not want WAP/WML, ringtones, MMS, J2ME, etc to be part of all this. > 2. Given the comparative rarity of devices which can browse "the > mobile web" today (we're talking PDAs and a few high-end handsets > aren't we?) then am I right in thinking that this document is > focused > more on a hypothetical future of 2-3 years away than around services > being built today/tomorrow? I hope not. To me this is now. More or less all handsets released during the past year or two contain a decent browser capable of rendering HTML, WML, and variations of XHTML/XHTML-MP. There's also Opera. The problem lies in the content being delivered to them: it's too big and too complex and written in a way that makes content adaptation nearly impossible except in lab demos of current single-click-make-the-web-mobile-products. > 3. I'd agree with most of the recommendations. They seem in some > parts to be head-thumpingly simple and obvious, but I've been very > close to this industry for some time now so that's to be expected, I > think (and IMHO one characteristic of a good idea is that it's > obvious in retrospect). I don't believe these are necessarily > obvious > to a target audience of web developers. In my opinion web designers have been in a downward spiral since day one of the web. For reasons unknown to me, they seem to increasingly prefer atrocities like fixed-width layout and fixed-size fonts, etc. I hope we can create a strong message saying "No, this is not OK to do". It's actually one of the major reasons why THE web isn't working very well on small screens. > 4. I'd be interested to hear more about the advantages of mobile > devices (section 3.7). This might provide a more positive > counterweight to a document which is otherwise on a fairly negative > slant (in that it's otherwise focused on limitations, things we cut > out of the web to make mobile, etc.) They're mobile and are a lot easier to lug around than a laptop. You can also talk to people with them ;) > One weirdie tho: why is the semantic markup section there, when even > the group admits it doesn't know what it is? Is TBL standing over > them with a Big Stick? Well, I think there's consensus that meta-data (=semantic markup) is going to be needed in order to do any useful content adaptation. In what form is TBD - I personally hope the BPWG will favor ease-of-use over elegance and recommend something dirt-simple like an element attribute and *not* a new XML namespace etc. thanks, Magnus Lonnroth CTO, Drutt Corporation
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