Re: Preservation of Content Ownership ( LC-2090)

Dear Luca,

The Last Call review period for the Guidelines for Web Content 
Transformation Proxies is over and we have not yet heard from you. We 
were wondering whether you had time to review the responses to your 
comments and the updated document, and whether you could let us know if 
you agree with it or not via email.

The header of the previous emails was generated from a template that did 
not give us the opportunity to apologize for the time it took us to get 
back to you. Comments received during the first Last Call review period 
generated a lot of discussions within the group. Resolutions of the 
issues took more time than expected. The group thinks the document has 
quite improved as a consequence, apologizes for the delay and would like 
to thank you again for your contribution!

Thanks,

For the Mobile Web Best Practices Working Group,
Francois Daoust,
W3C Staff Contact.

fd@w3.org wrote:
>  Dear Luca Passani ,
> 
> The Mobile Web Best Practices Working Group has reviewed the comments you
> sent [1] on the Last Call Working Draft [2] of the Content Transformation
> Guidelines 1.0 published on 1 Aug 2008. Thank you for having taken the time
> to review the document and to send us comments!
> 
> The Working Group's response to your comment is included below, and has
> been implemented in the new version of the document available at:
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-ct-guidelines-20091006/.
> 
> Please review it carefully and let us know by email at
> public-bpwg-comments@w3.org if you agree with it or not before 6 November
> 2009. In case of disagreement, you are requested to provide a specific
> solution for or a path to a consensus with the Working Group. If such a
> consensus cannot be achieved, you will be given the opportunity to raise a
> formal objection which will then be reviewed by the Director during the
> transition of this document to the next stage in the W3C Recommendation
> Track.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> For the Mobile Web Best Practices Working Group,
> Dominique Hazaël-Massieux
> François Daoust
> W3C Staff Contacts
> 
>  1. http://www.w3.org/mid/48C78B27.8050601@eunet.no
>  2. http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-ct-guidelines-20080801/
> 
> 
> =====
> 
> Your comment on 4.3.6 Proxy Decision to Transform:
>> Hi, I think that CTG should mention the fact that, in case of 
>> transcoding, no extra content should be injected without the consent of
>>
>> the original content owner. The idea is to avoid that W3C 
>> protocols/guidelines implicitly endorse the attempt by  those who  
>> manage the transcoder to monetize on the effort/investment of other 
>> people. Of course, there is also a point that injecting extra content 
>> will invariably affect usability negatively and as such should be
>> avoided.
>>
>> I suggest the following addition:
>>
>> "4.3.6.3 Injection of external content
>> In its effort to optimise the user experience of non-mobile optimised 
>> sites, a proxy *should not* inject extra content into the transcoded 
>> pages, where the term 'extra content' refers to text, links, banners  
>> and other multimedia content which is not available on the original 
>> untranscoded page. Addition of links aimed at implementing pagination 
>> and navigational shortcuts is admissible.
>>
>> Note: For clarity, it is emphasised that W3C does not endorse injection
>>
>> of third-party content into a transcoded page without the explicit 
>> consent of the content owner"
>>
>> Can this comment be added to the tracking system?
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> Luca Passani
> 
> 
> Working Group Resolution (LC-2090):
> The goals of this specification is to provide guidance to Content
> Transformation proxies and Content Providers as to how inter-work when
> delivering Web content. In other words, the guidelines are focused on
> defining means for the various actors of the delivery chain to communicate
> their intent and expectations.
> 
> The details of how a Content Transformation proxy performs restructuring
> operations is out of scope of this specification. The notion of user
> experience is by essence vague, and one design may be regarded as providing
> a better user experience by some and a lesser one by someone else.
> 
> The Working Group notes that alteration and thus injection of extra
> content is forbidden in responses served with a Cache-Control:
> no-transform.
> 
> Content Providers who do not want their content to be altered in any way
> should use this directive.
> 
> ----
> 
> 
> 
>

Received on Monday, 16 November 2009 12:57:56 UTC