- From: Sean Owen <srowen@google.com>
- Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 01:56:32 -0400
- To: "Dan Connolly" <connolly@w3.org>
- Cc: "Ben 'Cerbera' Millard" <cerbera@projectcerbera.com>, HTMLWG <public-html@w3.org>, "mobileOK WG" <public-bpwg-comments@w3.org>
I qualify my claim here a bit since it's hard to say with a lot of certainty exactly what is being used across the globe. I can offer a few generalized stats (forgive me, don't want to get in trouble for publishing anything too specific on a whim here) from searches to google.com/m which is a reasonable source of data. Over 80% of requests are from phones whose screen size exceeds that specified by the DDC. Very roughly a third of searches are from WML-only phones. This is another reason "most" is a loaded term. We aren't considering WML at all, as its old stuff, not very expressive, and plainly we're getting complaints for considering even the more advanced XHTML MP / Basic specs. I do think it underscores the fact that many mobile devices in use are not very advanced at all. About 90% of searches from XHTML-capable devices that we don't consider fancy enough to send to the non-mobile search are from devices that meet or exceed the DDC profile. I don't have good penetration stats on Japan readily available. I can say that Japan accounts for very roughly half of the mobile web-specific searches (and those are of course for cHTML content), which says that proportionally it's very big there. Of course I suppose it only big relative to arguably small adoption in the rest of the world. On 6/14/07, Dan Connolly <connolly@w3.org> wrote: > On Thu, 2007-06-14 at 08:47 -0400, Sean Owen wrote: > > [...] It reflects roughly mid-level phones from the past > > 5 years to entry-level phones of today -- what "most" mobile users in > > the world might have available to access the web. > > Why the quotes around "most"? > > I'd appreciate pointers to any sources of credible statistics. > > > cHTML didn't take off? I think Japan begs to differ, and I think it's > > an example of how very limited access can still be useful. > > Again, I don't doubt your claims, but I'd find your argument > much stronger if it were backed by credible statistics. And > I'd like to think that the W3C Mobile Web Best Practices > WG includes some people who can speak to these deployment > issues 1st-hand, or at least point to the current > research. > > -- > Dan Connolly, W3C http://www.w3.org/People/Connolly/ > > >
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