- From: Dan Brickley <danbri@danbri.org>
- Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 16:31:23 +0000
- To: "Gray, Alasdair J G" <A.J.G.Gray@hw.ac.uk>
- Cc: "public-bioschemas@w3.org" <public-bioschemas@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAFfrAFq85h19wJ45B2T12VxzCVq71sypshfunFQXeKmT1arcQg@mail.gmail.com>
I think the Schemarama (shapes validation) piece in particular, should be a good fit for bioschemas demo - http://schemarama-demo.site/ code - https://github.com/google/schemarama Do you have some shex/shacl shape files we could test it with? On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 at 16:00, Gray, Alasdair J G <A.J.G.Gray@hw.ac.uk> wrote: > This will be of interest to our community. > > > > Alasdair > > > > -- > > Alasdair J G Gray > > Associate Professor in Computer Science, > School of Mathematical and Computer Sciences > Heriot-Watt University, Edinburgh, UK. > > Email: A.J.G.Gray@hw.ac.uk <A.J.G.Gray@hw.ac.uk> > Web: http://www.macs.hw.ac.uk/~ajg33 > ORCID: http://orcid.org/0000-0002-5711-4872 > Office: Earl Mountbatten Building 1.39 > Twitter: @gray_alasdair > > > > > > Heriot-Watt is a global University, as a result my working hours may not > be your working hours. Do not feel pressure to reply to this email outside > your working hours. > > > > > > To arrange a meeting: https://doodle.com/mm/alasdairgray/book-a-time > > > > > > *From: *"danbri@google.com" <danbri@google.com> > *Date: *Tuesday, 15 December 2020 at 15:50 > *To: *"public-schemaorg@w3.org" <public-schemaorg@w3.org>, Tom Marsh < > tmarsh@exchange.microsoft.com>, Stéphane Corlosquet <scorlosquet@gmail.com>, > Yuliya Tihohod <tilid@yandex-team.ru>, "R.V. Guha" <guha@google.com>, > Nicolas Torzec <torzecn@oath.com> > *Subject: *a Schema Markup Validator: adopting SDTT for > validator.schema.org > *Resent from: *"public-schemaorg@w3.org" <public-schemaorg@w3.org> > *Resent date: *Tuesday, 15 December 2020 at 15:46 > > > > > ***************************************************************** * > *Caution: This email originated from a sender outside Heriot-Watt > University. Do not follow links or open attachments if you doubt the > authenticity of the sender or the content. * > * ***************************************************************** > > > > > > Schema.org folks (steering group, community group, everyone...), > > > > https://github.com/schemaorg/schemaorg/issues/2790 tracks a proposal for > a validator.schema.org tool, to be based on Google SDTT, and to be > accompanied by opensource collaboration on data shape validation and parser > interoperability. > > > > Today my Google colleagues are sharing Google's plans for the future of > the Google Structured Data Testing Tool (SDTT) - see > https://developers.google.com/search/blog/2020/12/structured-data-testing-tool-update. > The intent is to rework it into a vendor-neutral tool that can continue to > serve as a markup syntax checker for JSON-LD, Microdata, RDFa as used by > the communities around Schema.org. Although it could live on its own > independent domain, it would make a great addition to the Schema.org site, > and I would like to proceed in that direction in 2021, as part of Google's > long term commitment to hosting the Schema.org site and keeping it relevant > for schema.org users. > > > > The basic idea is that the service now known as "Google Structured Data > Testing Tool" would stop making Google-product-specific data checks, but > continue - as "Schema Markup Validator" - to serve as a robust tool for > checking JSON-LD, Microdata and RDFa schema markup. No validator (or > schema.org parser) is perfect, so part of this work will involve > documenting any shortcomings in the parsers/validators, and collaboration > with opensource implementers and standards makers towards improving the > ecosystem for everyone. > > > > In addition to syntax validation, there is also the more futuristic topic > of "shape validation". For those unfamiliar with this distinction, syntax > validation is about helping publishers get the basic structure of JSON-LD, > Microdata, RDFa correct, whereas shape validation is about looking at the > extracted structured data and comparing it to the documented needs of > various online services, to see which features or tools it might be > eligible for. SDTT currently performs its own version of "shape checking" > to identify markup that matches the shapes needed by Google features, as > listed in https://developers.google.com/search/docs/guides/search-gallery. > However the intent is to turn this functionality *off*, so that the > testing tool becomes a simpler vendor-neutral offering focussed on > correctness of markup *syntax*. > > > > In addition to adopting a "degooglified" SDTT as a syntax-level "Schema > Markup Validator", I would also like in 2021 to continue some collaboration > around shape validation. This is the idea of using relatively new web > standards (shacl, shex) to check structured data for matching specific data > patterns or "shapes". See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SHACL and > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ShEx, or the free online book "Validating > RDF Data", https://book.validatingrdf.com/. Google recently opensourced > some Javascript software <https://github.com/google/schemarama/> in this > area, which brings together other opensource tooling to create a shape > validation system using both ShEx and SHACL. While it looks superficially > like SDTT, the focus is different: there is no syntax-level validation > (which is why the plan outlined above for SDTT is useful). Over time, we > can explore ways of integrating these different kinds of validation, but we > can make some very useful, simpler steps first by giving a reworked SDTT a > home under Schema.org. > > > > I've linked some more detailed notes on SDTT from the issue at > https://github.com/schemaorg/schemaorg/issues/2790 - or see https://docs.google.com/document/d/1q8z_rRJepiz4Os_KcEs3NaCVEm3US5l-qYL14JmE0To/edit# > > <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1q8z_rRJepiz4Os_KcEs3NaCVEm3US5l-qYL14JmE0To/edit>directly. > Feel free to follow up here, in Github or the doc, ... > > > > cheers, > > > > Dan > ------------------------------ > > Founded in 1821, Heriot-Watt is a leader in ideas and solutions. With > campuses and students across the entire globe we span the world, delivering > innovation and educational excellence in business, engineering, design and > the physical, social and life sciences. This email is generated from the > Heriot-Watt University Group, which includes: > > 1. 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