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Worry to many Datasets => spam Was [Re: {Disarmed} Re: DataRecord and Dataset Search]

From: Jerven Bolleman <jerven.bolleman@sib.swiss>
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 10:36:21 +0200
To: "Gray, Alasdair J G" <A.J.G.Gray@hw.ac.uk>, public-bioschemas@w3.org
Message-ID: <93d428a3-c32f-0de3-5e20-2f8808175ae9@sib.swiss>
Hi Alasdair, All,

Now that google dataset search exists I have a new worry of over using 
Dataset.

Take www.uniprot.org as an example. It has a bit more than a billion 
webpages. Marking them all up with Dataset for what was a DataRecord 
before would mean we would have a bit over 3.5 billion Datasets.
Google has no problem with dealing with the volume, but I am worried 
that their antispam logic/relevance would drown out the 7 or so Datasets 
that I would like to see highly ranked in their toolbox search.

Considering that most of this work is SEO related, I would vote to mark 
up just 1 page with DataCatalog/Dataset on www.uniprot.org and not on 
the other pages.

A more specific concept would be quite nice. May I suggest using a 
subtype to schema:StructuredValue e.g. bioschema:BioChemConcept.
For example the schema:mainEntity on 
"https://wormbase.org/species/c_elegans/gene/WBGene00012939" would be of 
type schema:StructuredValue.

In (hand-typed) JSON-LD roughly this.

{
   "@context" : "http://schema.org",
   "@id" : "https://wormbase.org/species/c_elegans/gene/WBGene00012939" ,
   "@type" : "Webpage" ,
   "identifier" : "WBGene00012939",
   "mainEntity" : {
	"@type" : "StructuredValue" ,
         "name"  : "subs-4" ,
         "hasPart" : {
		"@type" : "PropertyValue" ,
		"propertyID" : "Sequence",
		"value" : "Y47D3B.1 "
	}
    }
}


Regards,
Jerven


On 09/28/2018 09:37 AM, Gray, Alasdair J G wrote:
> Hi Karen,
> 
>> On 27 Sep 2018, at 22:38, Karen Yook <karen@wormbase.org 
>> <mailto:karen@wormbase.org>> wrote:
>>
>> I just need to weigh in here as a voice in the Alliance of Genome
>> Resources before anything gets finalized wrt to DataRecord or DataSet.
>> While we are not tied to 'DataRecord' per se, we will need something
>> other than just 'DataSet' to tag our pages.
> 
> Can you elaborate on what you mean by, “we will need something other 
> than just ‘DataSet’ to tag our pages”?
> 
>>
>> We also believe specific distinctions via sub-types perhaps seems to
>> be the preferred way to do things by bothschemas.org 
>> <http://schemas.org/>and Google.  We
>> will try to come up with a more specific proposal by or at the
>> Biohackathon in Paris in a couple weeks.
> 
> We would like to get these issues resolved before the hackathon so that 
> we can have stable core profiles for use in marking up with resources.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Alasdair
> 
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