- From: Dan Brickley <danbri@danbri.org>
- Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2017 21:36:58 +0100
- To: "Gray, Alasdair J G" <A.J.G.Gray@hw.ac.uk>
- Cc: Andra Waagmeester <andra@micelio.be>, Justin Clark-Casey <justinccdev@gmail.com>, "public-bioschemas@w3.org" <public-bioschemas@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAFfrAFrUxz_+iB4vrYwwFMUunnem+vpwQM4_qCpq+s+hKb59Dg@mail.gmail.com>
I believe there are opensource JavaScript implementations of each, in case anyone gets the urge to wrap both behind a common API / bundle in a unified tool Dan On 21 Oct 2017 21:42, "Gray, Alasdair J G" <A.J.G.Gray@hw.ac.uk> wrote: > I used ShEx in the past but that was before SHACL. I do like the intuitive > concise notation. > > However my postdoc has been looking at both and finding the SHACL examples > more accessible. Also the SHACL framework seemed more up to date. > > For most purposes there probably isn't much in it. It would be good to > know what are the things that can be done in one and not the other. > > Alasdair > > Alasdair J G Gray > Fellow of the Higher Education Academy > Assistant Professor in Computer Science > Herriot-Watt University, Edinburgh > > www.macs.hw.ac.uk/~ajg33 <http://%3Cbr/%3Ewww.macs.hw.ac.uk/~ajg33> > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Andra Waagmeester <andra@micelio.be> > *Sent:* Saturday, October 21, 2017 7:18:14 AM > *To:* Dan Brickley > *Cc:* Justin Clark-Casey; public-bioschemas@w3.org > *Subject:* Re: Buzzbang crawler and search release 0.0.2 now available > > I also have a preference for ShEx. The syntax feels more intuitive. > However, just recently a book describing and comparing both ShEx and > Shacl was released: http://www.morganclaypoolpublishers.com/ > catalog_Orig/product_info.php?products_id=1091 > > Personally, I I like the regex style of expressing cardinalities and the > possibility to combine different shapes for similar concepts in Shex. > > On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 11:09 PM, Dan Brickley <danbri@danbri.org> wrote: > >> I have a slight preference for Shex personally but the most official in >> W3C terms is Shacl. Anyone else have a view? >> >> On 20 Oct 2017 20:08, "Justin Clark-Casey" <justinccdev@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Thanks Dan. Yes, I need to look into SHACL/SHEX - I only have a passing >>> acquaintance with them at the moment. Would you recommend either one over >>> the other? >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> -- Justin >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Dan Brickley <danbri@danbri.org> wrote: >>> >>>> This sounds great! It would be interesting to try to write down the >>>> specific data patterns you're extracting, by using W3C SHACL or SHEX shape >>>> markup. I will be attempting the same for Google... >>>> >>>> Dan >>>> >>>> On 19 Oct 2017 12:37, "Justin Clark-Casey" <justinccdev@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> Following on from the Bioschemas adoption meeting, I'm continuing to >>>>> work on the extremely alpha Buzzbang Bioschemas crawler and frontend when I >>>>> can (renamed from BsBang, after Alistair pointed out the connotations of >>>>> 'bs' :)). >>>>> >>>>> You can play with the current search engine by going to >>>>> http://buzzbang.science >>>>> >>>>> In this release, I decided to concentrate on indexing DataCatalog >>>>> (this is extremely primitive as of yet, only recording the name, url, >>>>> description and keywords properties). If you go to buzzbang.science and >>>>> search for terms such as 'data' or 'registry' you'll get some results. >>>>> >>>>> Currently, I'm manually adding URLs - you can see the small list at >>>>> [1]. I added those that have DataCatalog JSON+LD embedded that I had in my >>>>> notes, such as identifiers.org and fairsharing.org. Down the road, >>>>> users will be able to submit URLs for crawling directly on the website, but >>>>> for now, please contact me, raise a Github issue [2] or submit a pull >>>>> request if there's an URL I can add. >>>>> >>>>> Next, I plan to crawl the rest of DataCatalog, esp. embedded DataSets >>>>> and think about how that information can help improve simple search. >>>>> >>>>> All feature suggestions or pull requests welcome on the Github crawler >>>>> [2] and search frontend [3] projects. >>>>> >>>>> [1] https://github.com/justinccdev/bsbang-crawler/blob/master/co >>>>> nf/default-targets.txt >>>>> [2] https://github.com/justinccdev/bsbang-crawler >>>>> [3] https://github.com/justinccdev/bsbang-frontend >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Justin Clark-Casey (@justincc) >>>>> Research Software Architect >>>>> Micklem Lab, University of Cambridge >>>>> >>>> >>> > ------------------------------ > > *Heriot-Watt University is The Times & The Sunday Times International > University of the Year 2018* > > Founded in 1821, Heriot-Watt is a leader in ideas and solutions. 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