- From: Alan Ruttenberg <alanruttenberg@gmail.com>
- Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 10:31:39 -0400
- To: "Henry S. Thompson" <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk>
- Cc: Jonathan Rees <jar@creativecommons.org>, AWWSW TF <public-awwsw@w3.org>
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Henry S. Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > [jumping in after a long absence, apologies if I misunderstand any of > the context] > > 'artefact' is not enough: the house my sister built herself last year > is eminently artefactual, but it's not a GR. > > 'intent' is not enough either: my sister was full of intent, the > intent was to build that house and she built that house as the object > of her intention and directly as a result of that intent. Absolutely. I'm not sure why anyone would think either is enough. Rather I suggest that intent is one element of the definition. Seems having a little more in definitions would get 'round Pat's strange cases such as light bulbs that are broken. > But (and here I come back close to my previously-stated conviction > that FRBR has a crucial role to play in resolving this question), > perhaps "intent to communicate" _is_ sufficient. . . FRBR's a good start. It needs, IMO, a little massaging to put it in to a formal framework. I don't think intent to communicate will be enough either, btw. There may need to be other parts of the definition, such as being about something. Not that aboutness is particularly easy to define either, but I think it's going to be another one of the necessary primitives. -Alan > > ht > - -- > Henry S. Thompson, School of Informatics, University of Edinburgh > Half-time member of W3C Team > 10 Crichton Street, Edinburgh EH8 9AB, SCOTLAND -- (44) 131 650-4440 > Fax: (44) 131 651-1426, e-mail: ht@inf.ed.ac.uk > URL: http://www.ltg.ed.ac.uk/~ht/ > [mail really from me _always_ has this .sig -- mail without it is forged spam] > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFKH+mBkjnJixAXWBoRAmqHAJwIGP25znZkcyfVisjOQoVMdQM6agCdGKr7 > xUIYP60B0s3b+p1DWjvZ8vY= > =6mSr > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >
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