- From: Jonathan Rees <jar@creativecommons.org>
- Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 11:42:42 -0400
- To: "Williams, Stuart (HP Labs, Bristol)" <skw@hp.com>
- Cc: AWWSW TF <public-awwsw@w3.org>
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Williams, Stuart (HP Labs, Bristol)<skw@hp.com> wrote: > Hi Jonathan, > >> I don't know - as you can tell my usual method is to try a term on for >> size for a while, and change it every few weeks until I settle on >> something I like. I guess this is annoying. Alan suggests we just use >> numbers in the URIs and then let the labels drift until they find a >> nice place. (Will TopBraid show labels instead of URIs? I'll see if >> Protege does.) > > Yes it does... Though there don't seem to me to be too many in http.owl (the one that I originally downloaded). Just added some labels for you. -Jonathan > Stuart > -- > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jonathan Rees [mailto:jar@creativecommons.org] >> Sent: 06 July 2009 15:40 >> To: Williams, Stuart (HP Labs, Bristol) >> Cc: AWWSW TF >> Subject: Re: Http.owl (was RE: JAR conflict for July 7 AWWSW telecon) >> >> I've checked in a fixed version, also adding some relationships to >> make your TopBraid diagram look better, introducing >> "HttpRepresentation" as distinct from an HttpEntity, and so on. >> >> The idea behind the names is that a Correspondence is *of* a >> WaRepresentation *to* a Rfc2616Resource (i.e. the wa-representation >> corresponds to the Rfc2616Resource). Sorry for the turgid prose. >> >> At some point I liberalized Entity -> WaRepresentation, perhaps under >> Tim's influence. I have considered changing WaRepresentation to >> "Value" a la Roy Fielding's paper, although I know most people will >> find that objectionable, but "entity" doesn't work very well any more >> now that the non-resource-specific headers such as Expires: are >> excluded, while "representation" is difficult for the usual reasons of >> not necessarily representing anything and so on. >> >> I don't know - as you can tell my usual method is to try a term on for >> size for a while, and change it every few weeks until I settle on >> something I like. I guess this is annoying. Alan suggests we just use >> numbers in the URIs and then let the labels drift until they find a >> nice place. (Will TopBraid show labels instead of URIs? I'll see if >> Protege does.) >> >> Jonathan >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Williams, Stuart (HP Labs, >> Bristol)<skw@hp.com> wrote: >> > Hello Jonathan, >> > >> > The one relation that I can't make sense of (yet) in >> http.owl is "http:ofWaRepresentation" the associated comment says: >> > >> > "C hasWaRepresentation R when R is the >> wa-representation that corresponds to the resource in which C >> inheres during C's lifetime." >> > >> > which seems to be a comment about a different relation... >> Or at least has not kept up with some name changes. Domain >> and range of "ofWaRepresentation" are "http:Message" and >> "http:Entity" respectively which has left me confused about >> the intent of the relation. >> > >> > >> > >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Jonathan Rees [mailto:jar@creativecommons.org] >> >> Sent: 06 July 2009 12:12 >> >> To: Williams, Stuart (HP Labs, Bristol) >> >> Cc: AWWSW TF >> >> Subject: Re: JAR conflict for July 7 AWWSW telecon >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 5:13 AM, Williams, Stuart (HP Labs, >> >> Bristol)<skw@hp.com> wrote: >> >> > I too have a conflict and cannot make the call on 7th July. >> >> >> >> OK, it looks as if 7 July is canceled. >> >> >> >> I would still really like to get feedback on >> >> http://w3.org/2001/tag/awwsw/http.owl >> >> and >> >> http://w3.org/2001/tag/awwsw/jar-diagram-7.pdf >> >> >> >> but I don't know if it's worth scheduling an extra call. Let's try >> >> email, and I'll meet with Alan R in person about it. >> >> >> >> I want to start thinking soon about what should be in a >> report on this >> >> effort. Not that the work is anywhere near done, but I hope each of >> >> you (active participants) will think about what would be >> good content >> >> and structure, to help guide next steps. >> >> >> >> Jonathan >> > >>
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