- From: Williams, Stuart (HP Labs, Bristol) <skw@hp.com>
- Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:43:06 +0000
- To: "Booth, David (HP Software - Boston)" <dbooth@hp.com>, Harry Halpin <hhalpin@ibiblio.org>, Alan Ruttenberg <alanruttenberg@gmail.com>
- CC: "public-awwsw@w3.org" <public-awwsw@w3.org>, Rees Jonathan <jar@creativecommons.org>
The thing is, that IMO, the author of a document will, to the best of their ability, know what it is that they want to say in the source format of that document - and how to say it in that format. I doubt that few if any would be willing to be held to account for the triples that might result from namespace to content-type or formats specific transforms. We have seen examples where folks have got simple things wrong - we have People that are parts of a document serialisation through simple mistakes. Many, most folks will be focussed on getting the surfaces syntax right for the particular task in hand - but don't expect them to care to much about the triples that you want to extract for whatever your purposes happen to be. Yes... I can read the faithful rendition text... I can also huff and puff at a brick house. To get the 'right' triple out folks will have to be intentional about that in the documents that they write - and I doubt that most will be (at least in the early days - and probably for a while longer). My 2 pence worth. BR, Stuart -- Hewlett-Packard Limited registered Office: Cain Road, Bracknell, Berks RG12 1HN Registered No: 690597 England > -----Original Message----- > From: Booth, David (HP Software - Boston) > Sent: 15 July 2008 17:32 > To: Williams, Stuart (HP Labs, Bristol); Harry Halpin; Alan Ruttenberg > Cc: public-awwsw@w3.org; Rees Jonathan > Subject: RE: Provenance (was HTTP mechanics +1, IR semantics -1) > > > From: Williams, Stuart (HP Labs, Bristol) > > [ . . . ] > > FWIW: I've alway's had a bit of a problem wrt to RFDa and > > GRDDL wrt to media-types and intentions. Both RDFa and GRDDL > > enable 'triples' to be 'extracted' from > > (webarch:representations of) document (like-things). What is > > *much* less clear is whether its was the intent of the > > orginal author to incant such triples. > > [ . . . ] > > FYI, the GRDDL working group explicitly dealt with that > question. From the GRDDL spec: > http://www.w3.org/TR/grddl/#sec_rend > [[ > Faithful Renditions(link) > > By specifying a GRDDL transformation, the author of a > document states that the transformation will provide a > faithful rendition in RDF of information (or some portion of > the information) expressed through the XML dialect used in > the source document. > > Likewise, by specifying a GRDDL namespace transformation or > profile transformation, the creator of that namespace or > profile states that the transformation will provide a > faithful RDF rendition of a class of source documents which > relate to that namespace or profile. A namespace document or > a profile document also provide a means for their authors to > explain in prose the purpose of the transformation or any > policy statements. > ]] > > > David Booth, Ph.D. > HP Software > +1 617 629 8881 office | dbooth@hp.com > http://www.hp.com/go/software > > Statements made herein represent the views of the author and > do not necessarily represent the official views of HP unless > explicitly so stated. >
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