[GENIVI-W3C] minutes - 27 September 2016

available at:
  https://www.w3.org/2016/09/27-genivi-minutes.html

also as text below.

I've included all the comments from Philippe Robin.

Thanks,

Kazuyuki

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                        Genivi/W3C coordination

27 Sep 2016

   See also: [2]IRC log

      [2] http://www.w3.org/2016/09/27-genivi-irc

Attendees

   Present
          Kaz_Ashimura, Philippe_Robin, Joel_Hoffmann, Paul_Boyes,
          Qing_An, Rudolf_Streif, Stacy_Janes, Wonsuk_Lee,
          Philippe_Colliot

   Regrets
   Chair
          Philippe_Robin

   Scribe
          kaz

Contents

     * [3]Topics
     * [4]Summary of Action Items
     * [5]Summary of Resolutions
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   stacy: introduces himself as genivi security team lead
   ... how much codesign work done with w3C?

   rudi: websocket work is done on w3C side

   paul: W3C works on the web layer and Genivi works on the lower
   layer

   stacy: the W3C security group involved?
   ... (explains the security work on the GENIVI side)

   paul: Junichi Hashimoto from KDDI is leading the discussion on
   the W3C Automotive side
   ... and will attend the GENIVI meeting in October
   ... many people would like to join the security discussion

   stacy: can send invitation to people if needed
   ... and a writeup on our work

   philippe: W3C security team is asia-based?
   ... 4pm CET might be not really good for them then

   paul: right
   ... we've been holding 2 slots: us friendly one and
   europe/japan friendly one

   stacy: we have offices in Asia as well

   paul: will let you know the mailinglist
   ... if you can send messages to the list, the participants
   would be interested

   stacy: can send some slide decks
   ... they can go to our wiki and get more information

   paul: what is your thought about the participation in the AMM
   schedule?

   phlippe: W3C is a W3C Member
   ... so you can have 4 people to attend this meeting
   ... basically no issue

   paul: some of the W3C participants are GENIVI Members
   themselves as well

   philippe: if people are interested, we should be able to find a
   way

   stacy: W3C meeting as well during the October AMM?

   paul: yes, the WG/BG will hold a f2f meeting

   stacy: same location in SFO?

   paul: yes

   stacy: do you want me to attend some of the sessions?

   paul: yes

   rudi: +1

   ->
   [6]https://www.w3.org/auto/wg/wiki/Main_Page#Oct_19_-_21_.2C_20
   16_.2CGenivi_AMM.2C_Burlingame W3C meeting schedule

      [6]
https://www.w3.org/auto/wg/wiki/Main_Page#Oct_19_-_21_.2C_2016_.2CGenivi_AMM.2C_Burlingame

   paul: Oct. 20-21 for the W3C meeting. Karin is helping us for
   logistics.

   philippe: good
   ... we have a separate call for security
   ... let's use this monthly call for synchronization

   stacy: can start to join the W3C security call too

   philippe: we have this call on 4th Tuesday for the
   synchronization
   ... we have also the W3C/Auto BG call on the 2nd Tuesday as
   another coordination event
   ... we need to wait for Philippe Colliot for LBS
   ... Rudi, do you have update on VSS?

   rudi: demo during AMM
   ... last week there was W3C TPAC meeting in Lisbon
   ... discussed current draft
   ... first draft spec of vss was presented and well received
   ... 2 people from JLR UK
   ... plan to finish the spec by Q2 next year

   philippe: good

   -> [7]https://www.w3.org/2016/09/19-auto-minutes.html day 1
   minutes from the W3C Automotive meeting

      [7] https://www.w3.org/2016/09/19-auto-minutes.html

   -> [8]https://www.w3.org/2016/09/20-auto-minutes.html day 2
   minutes from the W3C Automotive meeting

      [8] https://www.w3.org/2016/09/20-auto-minutes.html

   paul: might be good to have discussion with the W3C security
   team about how the proxy would work, etc.
   ... browsers running on the system for system functions
   ... like head unit

   stacy: browser based attack
   ... when the details are on discussion, would be interesting

   rudi: very valuable

   stacy: there are a few attacks went through the vehicle systems

   (short discussion on tesla hacking and uconnect (Jeep) hacking)

   paul: would be good to have an overview of typical hacks during
   the W3C F2F at the AMM
   ... we'd have a summary of our work

   stacy: will look at my calendar

   philippe: quick update on the tuner work?

   paul: Ryan Davis from iHeartMedia is working on that

   (Philippe Colliot joins)

   pc: migration of all the API from Genivi design to Franca
   ... recently achieved
   ... the goal is publishing the Genivi API using Franca
   ... and generate navigation Web API based on Franca
   ... would like to take part of the API design
   ... identify the difference between Franca version and WebIDL
   version
   ... I'm not a specialist of WebIDL, so taking longer than
   expected
   ... really appreciate if anybody could help
   ... Qing An had sent out some examples
   ... would like to discuss it during AMM
   ... but really need somebody who has expertise on WebIDL and
   JavaScript
   ... that is the situation

   paul: we should have a session on that
   ... Qing An?

   qa: yes

   paul: inline with the meeting

   rudi: good to have that

   paul: Philippe, please let me know about your availability
   ... Thursday/Friday

   pc: ok
   ... Qing An also suggested I should attend the Vehicle
   Interface part
   ... would like to understand it
   ... still need to understand how it would be implemented

   paul: a lot of functionalities on the service layer
   ... if GENIVI Members are interested, please join

   philippe: any other business?

   (none)

   philippe: would you have a call on the 2nd Tuesday in Oct?

   paul: would be good to have a quick call on Oct 11th

   (that is one week before the GENIVI AMM)

   philippe: ok
   ... the official synchronization meeting will be held during
   the AMM
   ... but welcome to have another call for security, etc.

   [ adjourned ]

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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