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comments on basic framework draft

From: Gerken, Stephen <sgerken@jaguarlandrover.com>
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 13:29:01 -0800
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Hi all,

Below please find comments on the basic framework draft as found at
https://raw.github.com/tripzero/automotive-bg/master/vehicle_spec.html as
of 17th January 2014.

The general appearance of the document is consistent with expectations for
a W3C standard.  The document is well laid out and well organized.

The concept of "zone" as presented in the draft appears to be an attempt to
capture the concept that multiple sensors on a vehicle will report data of
the same data type, and that within a group of such sensors reporting on a
common data type, it may be useful to distinguish individual sensors from
one another on a basis of physical location.  While the underlying concept
is sound and worthwhile, the particular implementation of "zone", as
detailed in the draft, is incomplete.

As drafted, "zone" is a solely planar distinction, with bitfielded values
for front/mid/rear, left/center/right.  For some vehicle equipment, this
division may be sufficient; many passenger car models have four wheels,
four seats, and four or five doors, which can be adequately described as a
wheel in the front right zone, a seat in the rear left zone, or a door in
the center rear zone (a hatchback).  However, even with these mundane
examples, zones as currently described do not adequately disambiguate
equipment.  Some full-size pickup trucks have dual rear wheels; for such
models, "tire pressure on wheel in right rear zone" describes two pressure
sensors, one for each of the dual right rear wheels.  We should not assume
that no future vehicle with dual wheels will be a passenger car.

Additionally, other equipment types will not disambiguate easily in a
planar zone concept.  For example, existing JLR models have up to 24 camera
views.  Some cameras may be front-mounted but side-facing, while others may
be front-mounted but rear-facing.  There may be camera clusters in which
many cameras share a common mount point, for example in the rear right
quadrant, and for which the cameras are distinguished from one another by
view angle, view direction, spectrum of sensitivity, resolution, or other
factors not contained in a planar zone concept.  Generally, equipment types
for which a planar zone does not adequately locate a single sensor include:
 + microphones, which may have multiple vertical placements within a given
planar zone;
 + microphones, again, in that two mics in close physical proximity may
have different sensitivities;
 + audio speakers, which may have multiple vertical placements within a
given planar zone;
 + audio speakers, again, for which woofers and tweeters may share a planar
zone;
 + tire pressure, in the case of dual wheels mentioned above;
 + accelerometers, which in addition to physical location, also have axes
of sensitivity;
 + cameras, which may have differences of view angle, view direction,
spectrum, and resolution as discussed above;
 + airbags, for which a right front zone may have multiple airbags located
in a body pillar and in the roof, collectively forming a side curtain, and
also an additional airbag located in the front of the right front zone in
the dash.

In light of the above examples of the diversity of sensors in modern
vehicles, and bearing in mind the creativity of current and future
automotive engineers, it would seem prudent to permits manufacturers to
specify bases for disambiguation of equipment which are not restricted to a
purely physical planar location, or even to a predetermined set of bases of
which we are currently aware.

As a technical point on the specific implementation of Zone, the current
implementation is as a bitfield.  This means Zone exists as a single field
within the interface, which is masked against predefined constants in order
to extract information from that field about which specific zones are on or
off.  Effectively, the Zone field carries information as a fixed-length
array of boolean values, where the array length is either 16 (for a short,
as currently defined) or 32 (if altered to a long). With either 16 or 32
maximum possible masks, it is entirely possible that the number of actual
useful bases of disambiguation would exceed the array length, leading to an
awkward overlaying situation; if this data type is for microphones, 0x80
means speech spectrum, but if this data type is for speakers, 0x80 means
tweeters.  While subtyping the zone masks based on the data type is a
possible means of extending the zone space beyond 16 (or 32) values, this
approach is awkward to document and difficult to code correctly, and should
be avoided if possible.

It would be preferable for Zone to be an actual array, not a bitfield.  If
Zone were an actual array, it could still be an array of ints, but since
masks wouldn't be necessary, the number of meaningful values of those ints
could be 2 ^^ 16 instead of 16.  So for example:
const short Front = 0x0001;
const short Middle = 0x0002;
const short Rear = 0x0003;
const short Left = 0x0004;
const short Center = 0x0005;
const short Right = 0x0006;
const short Xaxis = 0x0007;
const short Yaxis = 0x0008;
const short Zaxis = 0x0009;
....
const short MfgBase = 0x8000;
const short JLROuter = MfgBase + 0x0040;
const short JLRInner = MfgBase + 0x0041;
....
VehicleCommonDataType{ ... readonly attribute Zone[] zone; ... }...
such that a returned instance tpres of VehicleTirePressureDataType has
tpres.zone[0] == Rear, tpres.zone[1] == Left, tpres.zone[2] == JLRInner.

Also, as a minor copyediting detail, the word "information" in the draft is
variously misspelled as "inforomation" and "Infomration".

Generally however it's clear that a lot of effort and thought has gone into
bringing the document to it's current draft state, and there is good
material here which is worth building upon as the scope of the document is
fleshed out.

Regards,
Steve Gerken
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