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From: PHILIPPE COLLIOT <philippe.colliot@mpsa.com>
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2017 09:02:27 +0000
To: "Bartsch, Patrick, Dr. (I/EE-511)" <patrick.bartsch@audi.de>, "Gunnar Andersson" <gandersson@genivi.org>
CC: Paul Boyes <Paul.Boyes@inrix.com>, member-automotive <member-automotive@w3.org>, public-automotive <public-automotive@w3.org>, Philippe Robin <philippe.robin@technoveo.com>
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I was in business trip beginning of the week, so I’m sorry to reply only today.
Since 4 months we (the LBS-EG team in GENIVI) have been focused on the migration of the whole set of APIs to Franca,
and on the fix on some remaining issues.
The work has been successfully achieved and the Franca files (accepted by GENIVI and part of the Nostromo release)
can be found in the GitHub here:

Unfortunately, the documentation for W3C has not been updated ☹
According to what I presented to the W3C, the idea is to generate the Web APIs from the Franca files, that are the official reference for the APIs.
I didn’t have time yet to look at the early work you mentioned in the email. I’ll do it tomorrow and do my best to update the wiki.
Please consider the fact that one of my key objective is to make the navigation APIs we defined in GENIVI as widely adopted as possible,
and work with the W3C is crucial in my opinion.
So I’m definitely aligned with W3C, concerning the WEB APIs.
But, as usual, it’s always a matter  of workload …


Cordialement, Regards,

Philippe COLLIOT
Navigation & Map Expert
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De : Bartsch, Patrick, Dr. (I/EE-511) [mailto:patrick.bartsch@audi.de]
Envoyé : jeudi 6 avril 2017 08:22
À : Gunnar Andersson
Cc : Paul Boyes; member-automotive; public-automotive; PHILIPPE COLLIOT - U164359; Philippe Robin
Objet : Re: LBS from GENIVI

>>> Real sender address / Reelle adresse d expedition : patrick.bartsch@audi.de<mailto:patrick.bartsch@audi.de> <<<
I definitely feel good about where we landed, I feel that we are heading in the right direction ;)

Looking forward to working with you all.. I loved the open and honest argument exchange.. Let's continue this way

Best regards,

Dr.  Patrick Bartsch
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On 5. Apr 2017, at 23:41, Gunnar Andersson <gandersson@genivi.org<mailto:gandersson@genivi.org>> wrote:
Hi Paul

Hope you all felt good about the discussion today.

On Wed, 2017-04-05 at 20:57 +0000, Paul Boyes wrote:

FYI - From our discussion in the RSI Task Force today is a link from
GENIVI regarding LBS particularly as it relates to the W3C:


It looks to me that that page has not been updated from the early work based
on WebIDL.  Rest assured that everyone is on board with the service-based
approach not only for Vehicle Signals but also for LBS.  (Of course we *can*
still generate WebIDL too out of Franca if desired, but it's not what we
will be working with in the current W3C initiatives, as we all know.)

Here is Generalized IVI Navigation link from GENIVI:


All of the linked APIs at the bottom of this page are in their D-Bus
versions.  Reading them will give you an idea, but we have these in Franca
IDL now, which is more generic and readable.  The Franca-IDL interfaces are
now our official source from which all translations and bindings are

That said, I'll wait for Philippe C to update everyone on this.

- Gunnar

Gunnar Andersson <gandersson@genivi.org<mailto:gandersson@genivi.org>>
Development Lead, GENIVI Alliance

Philippe and Philippe,

Is this the correct spot?

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