- From: Frank Berker <fb@ftb-esv.de>
- Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 08:20:49 +0200
- To: "public-auto-wcag@w3.org" <public-auto-wcag@w3.org>
- CC: John Hicks <jwjhix@gmail.com>
- Message-ID: <54474CC1.7040102@ftb-esv.de>
Hi John, Hi everyone, please don't get me wrong. If I'd do my work on the wiki with a copy and paste approach, it would not be that difficult. I just use the projects to get inspiration and check for completeness and validity. Recently, there was a discussion under the topic "Auto-wcag promotion and communication", which included developers of projects that are related with our work. Therefore I mentioned Tanaguru and proposed to invite them to share experiences and knowledge. I'm far away from trying to evaluate and copy any methodologies or tools. Best from rainy Wetter Frank Am 21.10.2014 15:12, schrieb John Hicks: > Hello Everyone > > As far as I understand it, the point of this community group is clear > : a fresh approach to formalising the automatisable rules of the WCAG. > > To this end quite a few people have been working since April, to a > greater or lesser degree ( I make that point because we haven't all > been available all the time... I am very guilty of that). > > However, I think it is fair to say that the group has by and large > avoided becoming a discussion board for Vendors and tools, precisely > because what is interesting is working together on the rules. > > So it is not about reinventing wheels... there are lots and lots of > very good automatised web checkers out there, my company > www.urbilog.fr <http://www.urbilog.fr> has two, and other people on > this list also. Aurélien, who commented recently also works for a > vendor with accessibility checking http://temesis.com/ > > It is useful to share referentials, as I did with the RGAA in May, but > the point is really about working out the mechanics of the test from a > fresh viewpoint. In otherwords taking a criterion and explaining the > algorithm in the wiki provided. > > ... well, I hope I have understood this correctly! > > See you soon, > > John > > > > > On 21 October 2014 14:59, Frank Berker <fb@ftb-esv.de > <mailto:fb@ftb-esv.de>> wrote: > > Hi Matthieu, > > sorry, I did not notice that you already were a participant of the > group. > > I already checked out Tanaguru, Quail and WPSS from GitHub and did > some full text searches, because I don't like reinventing the > wheel. Therefore I had a look on some of the rules. > The design sheets are a good resource, thanks a lot for that. > > Maybe you could join us on this Thursdays Skype call (16:00-17:00 > CET) ? > > Greetings from Wetter > Frank > > Am 21.10.2014 12:38, schrieb Matthieu Faure: >> Hello, >> >> To complete my previous email, here are the design sheets of >> AccessiWeb 2.2 >> <https://github.com/Tanaguru/Tanaguru-rules-AccessiWeb-2.2-doc/wiki> >> rules. You may also be interested in the testcase files for >> AccessiWeb 2.2 >> <https://github.com/Tanaguru/Tanaguru/tree/master/rules/accessiweb2.2/src/test/resources/testcases/accessiweb22> >> we created in order to check each rule and its edge cases (~1600 >> files). >> >> Sincerely, >> Matthieu >> >> On 20/10/2014 16:45, Matthieu Faure wrote: >>> Hello Franck, hello all, >>> >>> Thanks for mentioning Tanaguru ! >>> >>> May I add a few informations. Tanaguru is an engine designed to >>> analyse web pages, applied to web accessibility with >>> accessibility checks. It is referential-agnostic, as one can >>> create his own tests (on whatever you want, the way you want). >>> >>> By now different referentials are implemented : AccessiWeb v2.2 >>> as you mentioned, AccessiWeb v3-HTML5-ARIA, French "RGAA" v2.2 >>> and v3.0 (beta since this very month). >>> >>> A typical test is made of a "selector" and a "checker" (in most >>> of cases). You can find in the doc how to create you own rules >>> in Tanaguru >>> <https://github.com/Tanaguru/Tanaguru/wiki/Create-a-rule-:-Getting-started>. >>> >>> You will find the usual different kinds of tests: >>> >>> * detection >>> * select and check >>> * site level rule >>> * nomenclature-based rule >>> >>> And also the various checkers: >>> >>> * presence / absence of attribute or element >>> * element unicity >>> * text emptiness or length >>> * text belongs to blacklist >>> * language change >>> * ... >>> >>> and combined checkers like: >>> >>> * link pertinence (combination of blacklist + emptiness + >>> length...) >>> >>> If I may bring you more information, feel free to ask ! >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> Matthieu >>> >>> On 17/10/2014 13:48, Frank Berker wrote: >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> I just found Tanaguru <http://www.tanaguru.org/>, a tool for >>>> automatic testing web-content against the french AccessiWeb >>>> <http://www.accessiweb.org/index.php/accessiweb-22-english-version.html>. >>>> They have an impressive set of selectors >>>> <https://github.com/Tanaguru/Tanaguru/blob/master/rules/rules-commons/src/main/java/org/opens/tanaguru/rules/keystore/CssLikeQueryStore.java> >>>> and AccessiWeb seems to be an official french implementation of >>>> WCAG2.0. >>>> Maybe we should invite them also to participate in the group? >>>> >>>> Have a nice weekend >>>> Frank >>>> -- >>>> Frank Berker >>>> fb@ftb-esv.de <mailto:fb@ftb-esv.de> http://ftb-esv.de >>>> FTB - Forschungsinstitut Technologie und Behinderung >>>> Grundschötteler Strasse 40, 58300 Wetter >>>> Telefon: 02335/9681-34 Telefax: 02335/9681-19 >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Fixe : 09 72 11 26 06 >>> Portable: 06 73 96 79 59 >>> Twitter: @mfaure <http://twitter.com/mfaure> >>> >>> Tanaguru logiciel libre pour mesurer l'Accessibilité Web >>> <http://www.Tanaguru.org/> >>> KBAccess base de données collaborative de bons et mauvais >>> exemples d'Accessibilité web <http://www.kbaccess.org/> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Fixe : 09 72 11 26 06 >> Portable: 06 73 96 79 59 >> Twitter: @mfaure <http://twitter.com/mfaure> >> >> Tanaguru logiciel libre pour mesurer l'Accessibilité Web >> <http://www.Tanaguru.org/> >> KBAccess base de données collaborative de bons et mauvais >> exemples d'Accessibilité web <http://www.kbaccess.org/> >> > > > -- > Frank Berker > fb@ftb-esv.de <mailto:fb@ftb-esv.de> http://ftb-esv.de > FTB - Forschungsinstitut Technologie und Behinderung > Grundschötteler Strasse 40, 58300 Wetter > Telefon: 02335/9681-34 Telefax: 02335/9681-19 > > -- Frank Berker fb@ftb-esv.de http://ftb-esv.de FTB - Forschungsinstitut Technologie und Behinderung Grundschötteler Strasse 40, 58300 Wetter Telefon: 02335/9681-34 Telefax: 02335/9681-19
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