RE: SC 1.1.1 (?)

Hi Jesse,
The test cases (sorry, I keep saying tests but they are test cases) we're creating for auto-wcag are described on our wiki: https://www.w3.org/community/auto-wcag/wiki/Test_overview The tests are technology agnostic, so tool developers can implement them regardless of what platform their tool runs on, though some tests will be easier to run on some platforms then others.

Wilco


030-2398270 (ma t/m do)

  Goed geholpen? Recommend us: www.linkedin.com/company/accessibility-foundation/products
  --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  Trainingen Toegankelijkheid: www.accessibility.nl/trainingen
________________________________________
Van: splendidnoise@gmail.com [splendidnoise@gmail.com] namens Jesse Beach [jesse.r.beach@gmail.com]
Verzonden: maandag 3 november 2014 20:58
Aan: Wilco Fiers
CC: John Hicks; public-auto-wcag@w3.org
Onderwerp: Re: SC 1.1.1 (?)

Wilco, when you say "create the test", what is the test being created in?

Jesse Beach

On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Wilco Fiers <w.fiers@accessibility.nl<mailto:w.fiers@accessibility.nl>> wrote:
Hi John,
Yeah, great example. I've probably seen this a few times during audits, and it's never a good sign. Thanks for the input. Do you want to create this test yourself?

Wilco


030-2398270 (ma t/m do)

  Goed geholpen? Recommend us: www.linkedin.com/company/accessibility-foundation/products<http://www.linkedin.com/company/accessibility-foundation/products>
  --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  Trainingen Toegankelijkheid: www.accessibility.nl/trainingen<http://www.accessibility.nl/trainingen>
________________________________________
Van: John Hicks [jwjhix@gmail.com<mailto:jwjhix@gmail.com>]
Verzonden: maandag 3 november 2014 17:12
Aan: public-auto-wcag@w3.org<mailto:public-auto-wcag@w3.org>
Onderwerp: SC 1.1.1 (?)

Hello everyone,

I said I would send an example of a situation where an automatic test could at least identify a high risk situation (an background image that caries information).

We are in a table and a data-cell is empty , but the style on the cell contains a non-repeating image (and only that).

Upon reflection, I think it would be very hard to say something definitive about this sort of situation.   Perhaps in wcag-auto land such examples really must remain manual.   After all, it could be just a decoration for an empty cell.

Then again, and since some people were even  speaking about analysing images and other stuff, some assessment of the styles attached to the cells in this table ("OK" and "KO") against a word list of "significant" sounding classes .... hmm, well, yes we are reaching quite far here.

In conclusion probably nothing to be done, but I thought it would be good to share the example anyway.

The table code is below, preceded by a the relevant CSS.  I also put a screen capture, many apologies for this, but  I can not provide access to the site and related css/script itself.

The offending items are data-cells such as :      <td class="ok">&nbsp;</td>

Anyway, that is the example...
John



PS : yes, the table itself is very wrong in many ways too !


The CSS :

*****************************************
.table_cards td.ok, .table_cards td.ko {
    background-position: center center;
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
}
.table_cards td.ok {
    background-image: url("../img/ok_768px.png");

.table_cards td.ko {
    background-image: url("../img/ko_768px.png");


The HTML:

                                <table class="table_cards">
                                    <tr>
                                        <th class="arbo">
                                            &nbsp;
                                        </th>
                                        <th class="date txt_centre asc">
                                            <span>Date</span>
                                        </th>
                                        <th>
                                        <span>Merchant</span>
                                        </th>
                                        <th class="montant">
                                            <span>Amount</span>
                                        </th>
                                        <th class="statut">
                                            <span>Statut</span>
                                        </th>
                                    </tr>
                                    <tr class="close_op">
                                        <td class="arbo">
                                            &nbsp;
                                        </td>
                                        <td class="txt_centre">
                                            JJ/MM/AAAA
                                        </td>
                                        <td class="commerce">
                                            <span>SHOP 1</span>
                                        </td>
                                        <td class="txt_right">
                                            50,00 €
                                        </td>
                                        <td class="ok">
                                            &nbsp;
                                        </td>
                                    </tr>
                                    <tr class="detail_op">
                                        <td class="arbo">
                                            &nbsp;
                                        </td>
                                        <td colspan="4">
                                            <span>Transaction on my card...xxxxxxxx</span>
                                        </td>
                                    </tr>
                                    <tr class="close_op">
                                        <td class="arbo">
                                            &nbsp;
                                        </td>
                                        <td class="txt_centre">
                                            JJ/MM/AAAA
                                        </td>
                                        <td class="commerce">
                                            <span>SHOP 2</span>
                                        </td>
                                        <td class="txt_right">
                                            277,29 $
                                        </td>
                                        <td class="ok">
                                            &nbsp;
                                        </td>
                                    </tr>
                                    <tr class="detail_op">
                                        <td class="arbo">
                                            &nbsp;
                                        </td>
                                        <td colspan="4">
                                            <span>Transaction on my card...xxxxxxxx</span>
                                        </td>
                                    </tr>
                                    <tr class="">
                                        <td class="arbo">
                                            &nbsp;
                                        </td>
                                        <td class="txt_centre">
                                            JJ/MM/AAAA
                                        </td>
                                        <td class="commerce">
                                            <span>SHOP3</span>
                                        </td>
                                        <td class="txt_right">
                                            11,90 €
                                        </td>
                                        <td class="ok">
                                            &nbsp;
                                        </td>
                                    </tr>
                                    <tr class="close_op">
                                        <td class="arbo">
                                            &nbsp;
                                        </td>
                                        <td class="txt_centre">
                                            JJ/MM/AAAA
                                        </td>
                                        <td class="commerce">
                                            <span>SHOP4</span>
                                        </td>
                                        <td class="txt_right">
                                            1 498,36 £
                                        </td>
                                        <td class="ko">
                                            &nbsp;
                                        </td>
                                    </tr>
                                    <tr class="detail_op">
                                        <td class="arbo">
                                            &nbsp;
                                        </td>
                                        <td colspan="4">
                                            <span>Transaction on my card...xxxxxxxx</span>
                                        </td>
                                    </tr>
                                </table>

Received on Tuesday, 4 November 2014 09:06:53 UTC