- From: Annika Nietzio (for mailing lists) <an@ftb-volmarstein.de>
- Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 09:33:24 +0200
- To: "public-auto-wcag@w3.org" <public-auto-wcag@w3.org>
Automated WCAG Monitoring Community Group
Teleconference 2014-05-21, 14:00 - 15:00 h (CET)
Attendees:
Wilco Fiers
Kamyar Rasta
Emmanuelle Gutiérrez
Hanno Lans
Annika Nietzio
Birkir Gunnarsson
Katie Haritos-Shea
Chair: Wilco
Scribe: Annika
ITEM 1: Welcome and introduction
Short presentation of each participant:
Wilco Fiers (Accessibility Foundation, NL) is a front-end and back-end
developer with several years of experience as accessibility evaluator.
Annika Nietzio (Forschungsinstitut Technologie und Behinderung, DE) is a
web accessibility expert with focus on evaluation methodologies,
automated checking of web accessibility, and accessibility benchmarking.
Birkir Gunnarsson works for Deque systems (consultancy and compliance
checking for web accessibility). Deque has developed FireEyes [1].
Birkir is also a member of the ARIA task force.
Emmanuelle Gutiérrez y Restrepo (Sidar Foundation, ES) has long time
experience in web accessibility. Currently, she is working on a new
monitoring tool for Portugal, Spain, and South America.
Hanno Lans (KING, NL) is working on a web accessibility monitor for the
Dutch government. The monitor is based on Quailjs [2].
Kamyar Rasta (Tingtun, NO) is a back-end developer for accessibility
conformance testing.
Katie Haritos-Shea (US) has over fifteen years of accessibility
experience. She worked for several government agencies. Currently, she
works for a private company and is responsible for QA and web accessibility.
ITEM 2: Introduction to the community group
Wilco: auto-wcag was initiated by a European project: EIII "The European
Internet Inclusion Initiative" [3]. Several members of the community
participate in the project: Wilco, Kamyar, Birkir, Annika.
One of the goals of EIII is the development of a user testing tool that
allows users to complement the results of an automated accessibility
evalation. In existing approaches, automated tools are often targeted
towards web developers. Some of the issues identified are not
accessibility problems. Our research shows also that the results
produced by different tools differ widely.
The goal of auto-wcag is to create test specifications that different
people can implement. This will produce data to compare the tool and
improve / generalise the test descriptions.
Katie: This is an amazing idea. This is also important for QA during web
site development, to enable more developers to quickly check web
accessibility (even if they have little knowledge of web accessibility).
Web accessibility involves a complex combination of web technology, AT,
user skills, etc.
Hanno: The Quailjs development is currently focusing on implementing
more tests [4]. One of the challenges ist that Quailjs is reporting in
EARL. The output of the tool has to respect this format, but WCAG is not
very specific about applicability, e.g. which tests to apply if there is
a video on the web page.
Emmanuelle: The Spanish monitoring tool will be presented to the public
during ICCHP 2014. The paper title ist "Iberoamerican Observatory of Web
Accessibility. A benchmarking and educative tool" [5]. The Sidar
foundation is the central observatory, but the tool will be run by the
government in each of the participating countries. This is very
difficult outside Europe.
ITEM 3: The EIII template
Annika: There is an Introduction to auto-wcag test design on the wiki
[6]. Goal is to supplement WCAG (and Techniques etc.) We should avoid to
duplicate the WCAG content.
Discussion of Selectors:
Hanno: Selectors are related to the situations mentioned in WCAG.
Birkir: Screen readers have documented heuristics. This could also be
part of the UTT. Applicability is an important issue, e.g. placeholders
in forms are often too low contrast, but you cannot style them.
Discussion of Assertor requirements
Katie: Suggest to change item 3. and 4. too "HTML and WCAG".
Hanno: Human language is also an important aspect. Which tests require
language knowledge? What about evaluations of multi-lingual web sites
(like www.europa.eu)?
Wilco: We try to describe tests on lowest level of expertise.
ACTION: All participants, please read the Introduction [6] and provide
feedback before the next meeting.
Hanno: I would like to add applicabilty and relationship failures <->
techniques. We use this format [7].
ITEM 4: Test design
Wilco: There is a list of tests on the wiki [8]. Some tests already have
some content, for example SC 1.4.1 [9]. The main goal of auto-wcag is
the development of further tests.
Annika: The template [10] still needs improvement.
ACTION: All participants, please read the template [10] and suggest
improvements.
Wilco: The EIII project will implement the first 5 tests in the next
couple of weeks.
ACTION: Birkir to add tests for SC 2.4.2.
ITEM 5: Commenting and collaboration tools
Use the discussion pages on the wiki to comment on the introduction and
test template. You can also add comments to other pages. In this case,
please send a brief message to the mailing list, to make sure that the
comments are not overlooked.
The next telecon is scheduled for 2014-05-28.
1. The next telecon will be on Skype. Wilco is looking also for other
options.
2. The chat will be only on IRC (#auto-wcag). The chat functionality of
Skype should not be used to avoid confusion of using two chat windows in
parallel.
REFERENCES:
[1] http://www.deque.com/products/fireeyes/
[2] http://quailjs.org/
[3] http://eiii.eu/
[4]
https://github.com/quailjs/quail/issues?direction=desc&labels=success+criterion&page=1&sort=updated&state=open
[5] http://registration.icchp.org/Programme/ShowAbstract?submission=535
[6]
https://www.w3.org/community/auto-wcag/wiki/Introduction_to_auto-wcag_test_design
[7] https://github.com/quailjs/quail/issues/172
[8] https://www.w3.org/community/auto-wcag/wiki/Test_overview
[9] https://www.w3.org/community/auto-wcag/wiki/1.4.1_Use_of_Color
[10] http://www.w3.org/community/auto-wcag/wiki/Test_template
SUMMARY OF ACTIONS:
https://www.w3.org/community/auto-wcag/wiki/index.php?title=Action_items&oldid=39
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