Minutes for Teleconference on 26 June 2014

Hello, here are the notes.  I may have missed some things, please complete
as necessary.
Wilco, do you update the action items on the wiki?


Automated WCAG Monitoring Community Group
Teleconference 2014-06-26, 16:00 - 17:00 h (CET)

*Attendees:*
Annika
Birkir
Hanno
John
Kamyar
Wilco

*Action items addressed*
1. John : RGAA  translation sent : needs to be slightly corrected and put
on the wiki with link sent to list.

2.  Wilco has updated the page of SC and people can now put their names by
the ones they will tackle:
 https://www.w3.org/community/auto-wcag/wiki/Test_overview

3.  Hanno's updates : currently working on the QUAIL list , not completed
yet.  Action open til next week.

4.  Kaymar comments on the RGAA example
         -- exhaustive list of the css properties would be necessary
 -- ... all automatable?   No. Action point JOHN : have a look at what is
automatable in RGAA

5.  Annika : templates updated

6.  John : as Kamyar said,  clarifying the RGAA selectors seems important .
 Actually clarifying RGAA (automatisable/not) in general.


*Summary of Copenhagen*

Although there  for a different project, people did find time to meet and
owrk on the auto-wcag community group's work.  The main page  has been
updated to reflect the outcomes of this meeting  :
https://www.w3.org/community/auto-wcag/wiki/Main_Page

Including the introduction, to make it more clear what is going on :
https://www.w3.org/community/auto-wcag/wiki/Introduction_to_auto-wcag_test_design

An algorithm was created for aggregating the result, and
https://www.w3.org/community/auto-wcag/wiki/Basic_aggregation_algorithm

Changes made
--assertor requirements modified
--profile of the human operator is optional
--use of EARL  (added to results template)
https://www.w3.org/community/auto-wcag/wiki/Result_template

Shadi sugested a new subclass to the infil property for identifying what
went wrong when a test has failed.

*General Discussion and Advances*

We will change the property "test requirement" to an "is-part-of" relation
to the CS.

Annika : Egov mon automated tests created for 9 success criteria
Identified by techniques not by SC
to be transferred into tests for the auto-wcag

http://wiki.egovmon.no/wiki/Category:WAM20

Hanno QUAIL and 15 success criteria
Focus is now on 3 condition tests with possibilities for  "Not applicable"
and "Can't tell"   (this is useful for forms)
Important to see if test is applicable before going further (for example
testing only HTML 5 and not Flash plugins for example)
(Note from John :   The structure of the RGAA tests seems to explicitly
make applicability a first step in test phase)

Cross references to tests between egovmon and other systems (Action ... ?)
 these links should be on the test level.


Hanno : technique number of the Wcag needs to be mentioned.  (Note : RGAA
seems to have this built in)

Grouping related tests / techniques for other sources.


Action : each group member should put his or her name by a few SC in
Wilco's new list and elaborate the test procedure.
https://www.w3.org/community/auto-wcag/wiki/Test_overview


Birkir:  suggests discussing  1 success criteria only at each each meeting.
  Perhaps too limiting.
Wilco:  Would like to move the discussion torwards the test descriptions
(away from meta-methodology)
Hanno :  notes that some test cases seem very difficult to implement should
we stay with easily automatable?   Yes!

Annika : ICCHP ... anyone going?  http://www.icchp.org/
(John : someone from Urbilog is meant to be there ; perhaps will see if it
could be me.  We are not presenting anything)


*References*
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-auto-wcag/2014Jun/0016.html
https://www.w3.org/community/auto-wcag/wiki/Action_items
https://www.w3.org/community/auto-wcag/wiki/Test_overview
https://www.w3.org/community/auto-wcag/wiki/Main_Page
https://www.w3.org/community/auto-wcag/wiki/Basic_aggregation_algorithm
https://www.w3.org/community/auto-wcag/wiki/Introduction_to_auto-wcag_test_design
https://www.w3.org/community/auto-wcag/wiki/Result_template
http://wiki.egovmon.no/wiki/Category:WAM20
https://www.w3.org/community/auto-wcag/wiki/Test_overview

* Summary of action items:*

John : RGAA to the wiki and some clarifications
Hanno : Quail list

Everyone : pick some SC and begin writing tests!

Cross-reference of systems?  Action for everyone?  (suggestion:  get
familiar with the different sets)

https://www.w3.org/community/auto-wcag/wiki/Action_items