Re: [Agenda] Audio WG Teleconference, 22 August

Dear Olivier,

I would like to to propose (possibly for a later call if we run out of time today) that we resume an agendum that was dropped from a previous call due to lack of a quorum: loop start/stop points.  (https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17390)

Thank you!

...Joe


On Aug 22, 2012, at 11:41 AM, olivier Thereaux wrote:

> Hi group,
> 
> Here is a slightly more detailed agenda for our teleconference. 
> See you on the bridge in 20 minutes.
> 
> 
> On the Agenda:
>  Agenda+ Renaming interfaces
>  Agenda+ Remaming noteOn/noteOff to start/stop or play/stop
>  Agenda+ Renaming setTargetValueAtTime (and other AudioParam methods)
>  Agenda+ Naming consistency for Create methods
>  Agenda+ Teleconference schedule
> 
> Time permitting:
>  Agenda+ Renaming JavaScriptAudioNode
>  Agenda+ Revisiting the circular graph issue
> 
> Probably later:
>  Agenda+ MIDI API naming
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ** Topic: Renaming interfaces
> 
> The main issue is to balance the desire for interface names that make sense (should ideally be self explanatory and consistent with the rest of the spec).
> We have discussed this a little bit at a teleconference back in May:
> http://www.w3.org/2012/05/02-audio-minutes.html#item02
> 
> If we decide to change the name of an interface, then in almost all cases, our options would be:
> - We change the name in the spec. 
>  Webkit implementation keeps supporting (or not) for webkit-prefixed code
> - An informative note in the spec about the old name 
>  (ditto above for webkit-prefixed code)
> - Normative mention of both names in the spec, 
>  with mention that the "bad" one is deprecated
> 
> ChrisW has written about this:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-audio/2012JulSep/0569.html
> 
> 
> ** Topic: Remaming noteOn/noteOff to start/stop or play/stop
> 
> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17344
> http://www.w3.org/2012/05/02-audio-minutes.html#item02
> 
> Back in May, there seemed to be general consensus that noteOn/noteOff was not the best name. start/stop was proposed and liked, and there was another proposal for play/stop. The question seems to be about what happens to noteOn/noteOff. 
> 
> 
> ** Topic: Renaming setTargetValueAtTime (and other AudioParam methods)
> 
> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17334
> 
> This proposed list got a large number of +1's 
> - AudioParam.set(value, time)
> - AudioParam.linearRamp(value, time)
> - AudioParam.exponentialRamp(value, time)
> - AudioParam.approach(target, time, k)
> - AudioParam.curve(value_set, time, duration)
> 
> ** Topic: Naming consistency for Create methods
> 
> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=18332
> Did not get a lot of discussion yet.
> 
> 
> ** Topic: Teleconference schedule
> 
> Whether, how often, and when.
> 
> 
> ** Topic: Renaming JavaScriptAudioNode
> 
> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17348
> This one is complicated. I am guessing the solution will be architectural (whether we have a WorkerNode, etc) rather than a pure naming issue. 
> 
> 
> ** Topic: Revisiting the circular graph issue
> 
> Summarised here: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17326
> We need more work on this to get to a resolution. I'd like the group to think about how we can inform our decision better.
> 
> 
> ** Topic: MIDI API naming
> 
> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17724
> We might wait until officially chartered to work on MIDI to discuss this. That said, since we want to publish an FPWD soon, we may want to give it a thought or two sooner rather than later.
> 
> 
> Olivier
> 
> On 20 Aug 2012, at 11:32, olivier Thereaux wrote:
> 
>> Dear all,
>> 
>> Based on your feedback (on the list and directly), here is the agenda for the upcoming group teleconference.
>> 
>> When: Wednesday 22nd August, noon Boston for 60-90 minutes
>> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2012&month=8&day=22&hour=16&min=0&sec=0&p1=224&p2=43&p3=136&p4=291&p5=195&p6=237&p7=22
>> 
>> Logistics: http://www.w3.org/2011/audio/wiki/Main_Page#Telcon_Times
>> 
>> Proposed Agenda:
>> 1) renaming some of the interfaces in the web audio API (and MIDI API)
>> Read more:
>> 	http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-audio/2012JulSep/0569.html
>> 	https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17344
>> 	https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17334
>> 	https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=18332
>> 	https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17348
>> 	https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17724
>> 
>> (we will probably split this agenda into several, e.g cover start/stop, JSAudioNode and the MIDI interfaces naming separately)
>> 
>> 
>> 2) Teleconference schedule
>> Lessons from a async-only summer. Should we get back to a weekly teleconference pace from September onwards? 
>> 
>> 
>> 3) [time permitting] Revisiting the circular graph (and sample rate limits) issue, which I believe got dropped from view in the past couple of months.
>> Read more:
>> 	https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17326
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Olivier
> 

... .  .    .       Joe

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