Re: [Agenda] WG/CG Telecon Thurs Feb 11 9:00 am PST

Attendees: Athanasio Malamos, Attila Haraszti, Christoph Guttandin,
Honchang Choi, Jack Schaedler, Matthew Paradis, Ruth John, Raymond Toy

Minutes:

   - V1
      - CR and Rec Status
         - Testimonials
            - Matthew: I can write one.
            - Ruth: Is it only to the working group?  Haven't seen any
            message about that.
            - Raymond: I think it was for members.
            - Hongchan: So many questions on what is the right number,
            especially for non-members.
            - [Raymond briefly summarizes what Chris Lilley said last time]
            - Matthew: I'm writing one now. :-)
         - 9 Outstanding issues
         - ABSN.start control messages
         <https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api/issues/2248>
         - Invoking JS in the rendering loop needs a bunch of setup that
         doesn't seem to be in the spec
         <https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api/issues/1967> and
Integration
         between event-loop of AudioWorkletGlobalScope and rendering loop
         <https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api/issues/2008>
         - PRs
      - Fix #2248: Clean up ABSN start algorithm
         <https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api/pull/2286>
         - Raymond: Need this reviewed to unblock fixes for a couple of
            other issues.
         - Admin: Fix #2291: Add script to create a zip for for CR
         <https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api/pull/2290>
         - V2
      - Admin
         - Get Travis CI working to deploy the v2 spec.
         <https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api-v2/issues/114>
      - priority-1 issues
      <https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api-v2/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3Apriority-1>
      - Expose AudioBuffer to DedicatedWorker
         <https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api-v2/issues/111>
         - Hongchan: mostly waiting for more comments, but maybe expose
            AudioBuffer first, then BaseAudioContext.
            - Attila: Prefer exposing BaseAudioContext now.
            - Hongchan: Shouldn't be blocked on exposing BaseAudioContext;
            we can do AudioBuffer now.
            - Attila: But it's a detail.  The spec can say
            BaseAudioContext.  Browsers could do AudioBuffer first,
then the full
            BaseAudioContext.
            - Raymond: My preference is BaseAudioContext, but WebCodecs is
            moving along so let's not block them.  Add AudioBuffer now.
         - Render capacity
         <https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api-v2/issues/40>
         - Raymond: Still needs lots of design work.
            - Hongchan: Preparing a proposal, but want to talk to CPU folks
            first.
         - Render quantum size
         <https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api-v2/issues/13>
         - [Raymond describes the current proposal mentioned in the issue]
            - Hongchan: renderSize should be readonly, right?
            - Raymond:  Oops. Yes.
            - Jack: This all makes sense to me
            - Raymond: If there's no more comments, I'll make a more
            complete proposal and then we can write the spec for it.
         - Select audio device
         <https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api-v2/issues/10>, get
         device change notification, audio config
         - Hongchan: Last comments from guest271314 are a problem that we
            need to look at.  Requires permission.
            - Honghan: Without permission, it's hard for users to know what
            the device is.  Need to call getUserMedia to get permission, then
            MediaDevices to get a list and then pass the id to
AudioContext.  Not sure
            if this is the right pattern.  Without permission MediaDevices just
            produces a list without much information on the device.
            - Hongchan: Maybe allow context to request permissions and get
            a nice list.  Many details need to be worked on for that.
         - Others?
         - Hongchan: Wanted to ask Phlilippe about headphone detection.
            - [No other issues to discuss at this time]
         - AOB
      - Raymond: Need to think about F2F.  Maybe in Apr if TPAC is in the
      summer.  We can do it later if TPAC is later.
      - Attila: Maybe to match WebAudio Conf in July in Barcelona?


On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 10:26 AM Raymond Toy <rtoy@google.com> wrote:

> Here's the agenda for our WG/CG meeting.
>
> Meeting venue https://meet.google.com/wgg-wjtd-kdu
>
> Agenda:
>
>    - V1
>       - CR and Rec Status
>          - Testimonials
>       - 9 Outstanding issues
>          - ABSN.start control messages
>          <https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api/issues/2248>
>          - Invoking JS in the rendering loop needs a bunch of setup that
>          doesn't seem to be in the spec
>          <https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api/issues/1967> and Integration
>          between event-loop of AudioWorkletGlobalScope and rendering loop
>          <https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api/issues/2008>
>          - PRs
>       - Fix #2248: Clean up ABSN start algorithm
>          <https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api/pull/2286>
>          - Admin: Fix #2291: Add script to create a zip for for CR
>          <https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api/pull/2290>
>          - V2
>       - Admin
>          - Get Travis CI working to deploy the v2 spec.
>          <https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api-v2/issues/114>
>       - priority-1 issues
>       <https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api-v2/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3Apriority-1>
>       - Expose AudioBuffer to DedicatedWorker
>          <https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api-v2/issues/111>
>          - Render capacity
>          <https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api-v2/issues/40>
>          - Render quantum size
>          <https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api-v2/issues/13>
>          - Select audio device
>          <https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api-v2/issues/10>, get
>          device change notification, audio config
>          - Others?
>          - priority-2  issues
>       <https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api-v2/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+sort%3Aupdated-desc+label%3Apriority-2>
>       - AOB
>
>