- From: Gunderson, Jon R <jongund@illinois.edu>
- Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2019 15:20:04 +0000
- To: "public-aria-practices@w3.org" <public-aria-practices@w3.org>
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The following is a comment on the current utility of the ARIA Authoring practices. It appears we need additional information in the patterns and/or the examples to indicate the level of confidence in using the pattern or the example code in real world designs, especially when we have knowledge of the issues with current usage, otherwise we should maybe change the name of the document to "ARIA Implementation Testing Resources" and not use the word "authoring" in the title. Probably the biggest examples in the practices are combobox, spinbutton and slider. Jon From: athen-list <athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu> On Behalf Of joe@a11yeval.com Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2019 7:20 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' <athen-list@u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: [Athen] New version of W3C ARIA Authoring Practices available Hi All, I think my biggest problem with the ARIA Authoring Practices is that they are now a Working Group Note which is "not intended to be a formal standard" (https://www.w3.org/2018/Process-20180201/#WGNote) and "Publication as a Working Group Note does not imply endorsement by the W3C Membership" (https://www.w3.org/pubrules/doc/rules/?profile=FPWG-NOTE). So I don't see any onus for both web browser or AT developers that requires them to adhere to the ARIA Authoring Practices which means real world support for many design patterns will be spotty or incomplete. In addition, there are still after many revisions two design patterns that do not have working examples and sections of the document that are still incomplete. In the past, and it may still be the case, some examples did not follow the design pattern recommendations or that included extra ARIA attributes with little or no explanation for their inclusion in the example but not the design pattern. I am all for the creation of recommended design patterns for new and complex widgets, but I feel this type of documentation needs to be created in a more efficient manner with support from web browser and AT developers to ensure they work in the real world. Thankx, Joe Humbert Accessibility Champion From: athen-list <athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu<mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu>> On Behalf Of Gunderson, Jon R Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 3:33 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network <athen-list@u.washington.edu<mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu>> Subject: [Athen] New version of W3C ARIA Authoring Practices available A new version of the W3C ARIA Authoring Practices was published last month. https://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-practices-1.1/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.w3.org_TR_wai-2Daria-2Dpractices-2D1.1_&d=DwMFAg&c=Y6HT0gyZH_Z4ZSRJdNYJeQ&r=J9v0mCONcq6yW8Wqn227MJFNuytPEyFm-SWYS8R5nwA&m=VN-xfNA7cSdQMwATWGhgcn37PxMcncN4zF08beCWlXw&s=9EPr81pW1cAaL-RkStEGTnr3Y1CSTDa4EJN18RPp38U&e=> Changes from last publication: https://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-practices-1.1/#change_log<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.w3.org_TR_wai-2Daria-2Dpractices-2D1.1_-23change-5Flog&d=DwMFAg&c=Y6HT0gyZH_Z4ZSRJdNYJeQ&r=J9v0mCONcq6yW8Wqn227MJFNuytPEyFm-SWYS8R5nwA&m=VN-xfNA7cSdQMwATWGhgcn37PxMcncN4zF08beCWlXw&s=MRRQr8n70vcG5NQ5dKh6KZNmXCRN2BmzKoBK0kK0lGY&e=> This is a useful resource for web developers and designers to understand how to use ARIA markup to create WCAG 2.1 compliant web resources and can also be used by quality assurance testers to developing testing protocols and provide feedback to developers and designers. Jon Jon Gunderson, Ph.D., CPWA Coordinator of Accessible IT Group University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign 1207 S. Oak Street Champaign, IL 61820 www: https://go.illinois.edu/jongund<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__go.illinois.edu_jongund&d=DwMFAg&c=Y6HT0gyZH_Z4ZSRJdNYJeQ&r=J9v0mCONcq6yW8Wqn227MJFNuytPEyFm-SWYS8R5nwA&m=VN-xfNA7cSdQMwATWGhgcn37PxMcncN4zF08beCWlXw&s=RtDD3ZHitP4c0GSXfRoIIlLKBZkXHKCQNv7mn9WENqs&e=>
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