ARIA editors meeting minutes 2023-06-26

Hi everyone,

As usual, the minutes below.

Best,
Peter.


Minutes, ARIA Editors meeting 2023-06-26

Present
jamesn, scotto, daniel, peter

Regrets
spectranaut, mattking

Agenda
- All the links are broken in core-aam
- continue discussion around marking up advice for AT in the specs.
- core-aam#180, replacing the mapping tables in the AAMs

pkra: agenda
... spectranaut had sent core-aam links breakage
daniel: should be fixed now?
jamesn: will check
... why are we referencing ARIA 1.1?
daniel: we should update them
jamesn: we won't have a WD or CR for this, so we need to update links
... not even ED
... which version of ARIA the CD
... definitely not 1.1
daniel: didn't realize that.
jamesn: can we change accname as well?
scotto: just link to accname, no -aam
jamesn: links to 1.2 which is ancient
daniel: ED can stay?
jamesn: but we don't have one anymore?
daniel: will check and update to 1.2
jamesn: link to non-versioned wai-aria
... if we have 1.3, we can consider changing


pkra: continue discussion around advice for AT
... we left it at "we need to prototype something"
...  where?
jamesn: ARIA only?
me: also dpub-aria and graphics-aria
... but aria makes sense
jamesn: maybe start with a specific section
... last week's ARIA WG we spoke about ARIA Sec 8.6
... lots of MUST but no AT so
pkra: I'll file an issue on ARIA
scotto: good to get to this
... recent discussion on a11y slack
... confusion around non-modal dialog
... would be good to have
... but not MUSTs, more notes
pkra: could do SHOULDs
jamesn: we started with Notes, but e.g., cyns arguing for more
... "screenreader AT must expose attribute somehow..."
... will have to split up into different ATs
scotto: I wonder how far we can go with MUST or SHOULD without involving
them
jamesn: we have to involve them.
pkra: +1
scotto: perhaps we should do this first
jamesn: this came somewhat from that end, asking for advice
pkra: I'm really on cyns's side. We need better guidance
... and clearer about different AT, e.g., read aloud not even taking alt
text into account

pkra: core-aam#180
... I had taken a look
jamesn: the broken references might be due to ARIA linkage issue
... not merged into branch
pkra: I trust Valerie on completeness but do we need formal checks that
everything is still there?
jamesn: let's fix the references first
... but I also trust Valerie
scotto: no strong opinion on this change
... but if we do, do we need the table?
jamesn: right, not sure either
scotto: but also not sure if details+summary is right given issues
... then tables inside.
... should we even need
jamesn: can you talk with Valerie about what you want to have?
scotto: sounds good



Am Mo., 26. Juni 2023 um 16:56 Uhr schrieb Matt King <a11ythinker@gmail.com
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> Sorry, last minute regrets for today.
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> Matt
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> *From:* Peter Krautzberger <peter@krautzource.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, June 23, 2023 1:05 PM
> *To:* ARIA Editors <public-aria-editors@w3.org>
> *Subject:* ARIA editors meeting agenda 2023-06-26
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> Hi everyone,
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> For the next meeting, let's continue the discussion around marking up
> advice for AT in the specs.
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> There's also Valerie's PR for replacing the mapping tables in the AAMs
> (core-aam#180) to look at.
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> Let me know what else you'd like to put on the agenda.
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> Have a good weekend,
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> Peter.
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