Re: ARIA Editors minutes on IRC again?

Sounds good to me too. Less is more. 😉

Best,

JaEun Jemma Ku, Ph.D.
Director of IT Accessibility
Editor of W3C ARIA Authoring Practice Guide<https://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/apg/>
University of Illinois Chicago<https://www.uic.edu/>
Email: jku@uic.edu<mailto:jku@uic.edu>

From: Peter Krautzberger <peter@krautzource.com>
Date: Tuesday, July 18, 2023 2:40 PM
To: Daniel Montalvo <dmontalvo@w3.org>
Cc: ARIA Editors <public-aria-editors@w3.org>
Subject: Re: ARIA Editors minutes on IRC again?
Hi Daniel,

Sounds good to me.

Best,
Peter.

Daniel Montalvo <dmontalvo@w3.org<mailto:dmontalvo@w3.org>> schrieb am Mo., 17. Juli 2023, 17:26:
Hi.

Since we resumed these ARIA Editor calls we are not using IRC for minutes, as IRC is just one more thing to take care of. But at the end of the day I see that this is causing confusion. Maybe we should consider
taking notes on IRC and generating minutes that way? This way we have a reliable way of tracking our minutes without needing to rely on email.

Best.

---
Daniel Montalvo
Accessibility Harmonization and Training Specialist
W3C/WAI

From: Peter Krautzberger <peter@krautzource.com<mailto:peter@krautzource.com>>
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2023 6:42 PM
To: ARIA Editors <public-aria-editors@w3.org<mailto:public-aria-editors@w3.org>>
Subject: Re: ARIA editors meeting minutes 2023-07-10

Hi everyone,

As usual, the minutes from today are below

Best,
Peter.

# ARIA editors meeting minutes 2023-07-10

Agenda

* update on spec markup for advice for AT
* update on Valerie's PR for replacing the mapping tables in the AAMs (core-aam#180) to look at.
* prettier experiment https://github.com/w3c/graphics-aria/pull/10

* quo vadis contributors.md


* regrets: James, Matt
* present: daniel, scotto, pkra, valerie, jemma

pkra: Val's PR for table markup, core-aam#180
... thanks to scotto for the review
valerie: would love scotto's input for design / markup
scotto: as mentioned last week, we had table for table view
... FF still has a problem with focusable inside caption
... right now, e.g., JAWS going from opening link to caption won't say anything
... pkra had commented on repetition
... so my question was: could we do better?
... but then I felt that we really have better things to do with our time
valerie: feel the same
... e.g., would love to have something to click to get a self-link
... can't figure out a good way to add a self-link
... any ideas?
scotto: good point
... general thought: what are we really gaining from hiding the spec in disclosure widgets
... just have it all in there.
valerie: +1
pkra: +1
scotto: if we do this, step further: captions as headings
... thus outside the table
... could still aria-labeledBy to name table
... that would also solve FF issue
valerie: +1
... will update my rewrite script, update PR
... then run it on html-aam, svg-aam, too
pkra: +1
scotto: +1
valerie: then we get self-links from headings for free
pkra: @daniel anything from w3c to consider?
daniel: all good
scotto: gets more JS out as well
emma: +1

pkra: for the next meeting Matt is out, pkra too -- I'm guessing james as well
... shall we skip?
all: +1

pkra: next: spec markup for AT advice
... let's skip b/c james is out

pkra: next: prettier test PR https://github.com/w3c/graphics-aria/pull/10

... James wanted to take a look but if others can take a look, that'd be great
... I went with line-width 200 which felt reasonable
val: looks good
pkra: then I'll make more PRs like it
daniel: let's not merge before James takes a look
pkra: yes!

pkra: contributors.md
... came up recently (but couldn't find issue or PR)
... we had talk about replacing it
... where do we go?
val: which files?
pkra: https://github.com/w3c/aria-common/tree/main/acknowledgements

val: so just attribution via github?
pkra: yes, plus some historically important ones,
... iirc james had suggested this to
... via commits but james also wanted to know if issues could count
... a good bug report can be important
daniel: last time we spoke, it wasn't clear where we could get what
... didn't have time to dive deeper
pkra: but git/github based still sounds good to everyone?
all: +1
daniel: I can look a bit more
pkra: happy to help / take over later


Am Fr., 7. Juli 2023 um 11:59 Uhr schrieb Peter Krautzberger <peter@krautzource.com<mailto:peter@krautzource.com>>:
Hi everyone,

A few agenda items for the next meeting below.
Let me know what else you'd like to put on the agenda.

* update on spec markup for advice for AT
* update on Valerie's PR for replacing the mapping tables in the AAMs (core-aam#180) to look at.
* prettier experiment https://github.com/w3c/graphics-aria/pull/10

* quo vadis contributors.md

Have a good weekend,
Peter.