Re: ARIA editors meeting minutes 2023-07-10

Hi everyone,

As usual, the minutes from today are below

Best,
Peter.

# ARIA editors meeting minutes 2023-07-10

Agenda

* update on spec markup for advice for AT
* update on Valerie's PR for replacing the mapping tables in the AAMs
(core-aam#180) to look at.
* prettier experiment https://github.com/w3c/graphics-aria/pull/10
* quo vadis contributors.md


* regrets: James, Matt
* present: daniel, scotto, pkra, valerie, jemma

pkra: Val's PR for table markup, core-aam#180
... thanks to scotto for the review
valerie: would love scotto's input for design / markup
scotto: as mentioned last week, we had table for table view
... FF still has a problem with focusable inside caption
... right now, e.g., JAWS going from opening link to caption won't say
anything
... pkra had commented on repetition
... so my question was: could we do better?
... but then I felt that we really have better things to do with our time
valerie: feel the same
... e.g., would love to have something to click to get a self-link
... can't figure out a good way to add a self-link
... any ideas?
scotto: good point
... general thought: what are we really gaining from hiding the spec in
disclosure widgets
... just have it all in there.
valerie: +1
pkra: +1
scotto: if we do this, step further: captions as headings
... thus outside the table
... could still aria-labeledBy to name table
... that would also solve FF issue
valerie: +1
... will update my rewrite script, update PR
... then run it on html-aam, svg-aam, too
pkra: +1
scotto: +1
valerie: then we get self-links from headings for free
pkra: @daniel anything from w3c to consider?
daniel: all good
scotto: gets more JS out as well
emma: +1

pkra: for the next meeting Matt is out, pkra too -- I'm guessing james as
well
... shall we skip?
all: +1

pkra: next: spec markup for AT advice
... let's skip b/c james is out

pkra: next: prettier test PR https://github.com/w3c/graphics-aria/pull/10
... James wanted to take a look but if others can take a look, that'd be
great
... I went with line-width 200 which felt reasonable
val: looks good
pkra: then I'll make more PRs like it
daniel: let's not merge before James takes a look
pkra: yes!

pkra: contributors.md
... came up recently (but couldn't find issue or PR)
... we had talk about replacing it
... where do we go?
val: which files?
pkra: https://github.com/w3c/aria-common/tree/main/acknowledgements
val: so just attribution via github?
pkra: yes, plus some historically important ones,
... iirc james had suggested this to
... via commits but james also wanted to know if issues could count
... a good bug report can be important
daniel: last time we spoke, it wasn't clear where we could get what
... didn't have time to dive deeper
pkra: but git/github based still sounds good to everyone?
all: +1
daniel: I can look a bit more
pkra: happy to help / take over later



Am Fr., 7. Juli 2023 um 11:59 Uhr schrieb Peter Krautzberger <
peter@krautzource.com>:

> Hi everyone,
>
> A few agenda items for the next meeting below.
> Let me know what else you'd like to put on the agenda.
>
> * update on spec markup for advice for AT
> * update on Valerie's PR for replacing the mapping tables in the AAMs
> (core-aam#180) to look at.
> * prettier experiment https://github.com/w3c/graphics-aria/pull/10
> * quo vadis contributors.md
>
> Have a good weekend,
> Peter.
>