- From: Charles LaPierre <charlesl@benetech.org>
- Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2025 16:53:19 +0000
- To: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>, Jeff Kline <jeffrey.l.kline@gmail.com>
- CC: David Fazio <dfazio@helixopp.com>, Kevin White <kevin@w3.org>, "public-apa@w3.org" <public-apa@w3.org>, WAI <wai@w3.org>
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Hi all, Just to set the stage this was done as a proof of concept of what is possible and how the maturity model could be made easier to fill out than the current assessment tool using an excel spreadsheet. We have not yet used this AI generated tool in production as our Engineering Team needs to evaluate the tech stack used in order to support this in the future. Benetech also took the existing W3C's Maturity Model Excel Template and modified it for a project we are working on helping school districts and higher educational public schools get ready for the upcoming Title II requirements that all public school's digital content and communications are WCAG 2.1 AA compliant. These schools we are engaging with can opt-in to do a maturity model evaluation of their organization to get a baseline of where they are in their accessibility journey and over time track their progress by improving their accessibility maturity in areas found to be lacking. Other pieces outside the maturity model are a document and website accessibility evaluation and potentially accessibility training for staff. Thanks Charles EOM ________________________________ From: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2025 8:31 AM To: Jeff Kline <jeffrey.l.kline@gmail.com> Cc: David Fazio <dfazio@helixopp.com>; Kevin White <kevin@w3.org>; public-apa@w3.org <public-apa@w3.org>; WAI <wai@w3.org> Subject: Re: Accessibility Maturity Model AI Demonstration - Aug 13 - You're Invited Thanks, Jeff! I believe this clarification should help our invitees know what Benetech will be demonstrating for us. Brief Overview 1.) The Task Force has created an Assessment Tool, currently provided as an Excel spreadsheet. 2.) Benetech has created an HTML forms front end of our Assessment Tool. They used AI to help develop that code. Best, Janina Jeff Kline writes: > Slight correction??? we have officially used the term ???assessment tool??? so let???s stick with that? > > > On Aug 7, 2025, at 9:07???AM, David Fazio <dfazio@helixopp.com> wrote: > > > > ???Thank you, Janina. I would just add that we have created an assessment spreadsheet that can be used to track accessibility maturity. The spreadsheet can be thought of as a prototype and sort of wireframe. We will use it to inform the development of a front end tool, sort of like what WAI has done with WCAG EM. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Aug 7, 2025, at 7:01???AM, Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> wrote: > >> > >> ???Hi Kevin, All: > >> > >> I don't believe Benetech has yet told us which AI tool they used. I > >> suppose that will be disclosed during their demo, though it's > >> undoubtedly no secret. > >> > >> As I understand it, Benetech used AI to generate code rather than > >> writing code fully with usual tooling. They built a forms front-end to > >> collect data as provided by the AMM. In other words, they're beyond > >> the Excel spread sheet we're publishing with the AMM. > >> > >> We should also note that this is a second generation commitment to the > >> AMM from Benetech. They have been using the AMM to assess their overall > >> organizational accessibility since the Vancouver TPAC in 2022. > >> > >> hth! > >> Janina > >> > >> > >> Kevin White writes: > >>> Hi David, > >>> > >>> Could I ask what AI tool is being demonstrated in this meeting? > >>> > >>> Thanks > >>> > >>> Kevin > >>> > >>> > >>>>> On 6 Aug 2025, at 17:44, David Fazio <dfazio@helixopp.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> The W3C Accessibility Maturity Model Task Force is nearing our publication call for Wide Review and we have an AI assessment demonstration scheduled for next week that you are cordially invited to attend. > >>>> > >>>> A representative from Benetech will demonstrate a real world application of AI (as in how AI was applied) to assess an organization???s level of accessibility maturity, utilizing our publication, and experimental assessment tool. > >>>> > >>>> You may find this demonstration useful in your accessibility standards work. > >>>> > >>>> You may find this demonstration useful in your job role. > >>>> > >>>> You may find this demonstration insightful about applying AI to future endeavors. > >>>> > >>>> You may be interested in learning more, via a Question and Answer session. > >>>> > >>>> It is for these reasons that we highly recommend you join us for our Task Force Teleconference, next week. 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