RE: Vision for W3C review

Fredrik,

First of all, thank you for your review, and articulating your thoughts so
clearly. I agree with Janina that filing issues yourself could be a good
approach to take here. I wonder if some feedback like this has already been
lodged. I don't have the cycles right now, but the place I would look is:
https://github.com/w3c/AB-public/issues/ - though that page will only show
open issues. If you want _all_ issues (open _and_ closed ones), then you
want this URL instead: https://github.com/w3c/AB-public/issues?q=is%3Aissue

That may provide a starting point - I will look into this more as and when I
find the bandwidth (hopefully before the APA WG call; we'll see!)

Best regards,


Matthew

Matthew Atkinson
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>
> Sent: 09 November 2024 09:32
> To: Fredrik Fischer <fredrik.fischer@myability.org>
> Cc: W3C WAI Accessible Platform Architectures <public-apa@w3.org>
> Subject: Re: Vision for W3C review
> 
> Fredrik:
> 
> I think you're correct that APA would not likely take up your concerns,
but
> there's no reason you can't open issues with suggested rewordings.
> You could even branch and reword as you would prefer. You will get a
> hearing, and who knows? You might indeed improve the document to the
> satisfaction of all!
> 
> Best,
> Janina
> 
> Fredrik Fischer writes:
> > Dear colleagues,
> >
> > I have reviewed the Vision for W3C[1] and find myself in something of a
> bind. As it stands, it is a perfectly fine document and there is certainly
not
> much to be desired from an APA standpoint if taken as is.
> >
> > My quarrels with the text are, if not legion, then at least handily a
centuria
> or two. They have very little to do with accessibility per se, but more to
do
> with the very uncommitted tone of the whole thing. To me, it comes across
> as a vision almost in the dreamlike sense of the word, with some very
firmly
> laid out principles here, some quite loosey-goosey verbiage there and all
> jumbled together into a document that, though it presumes to give
direction
> for the organizationand by extension to the Web itself, is sorely lacking
in
> that department.
> >
> > There is too much qualification at the same time as there seems to a be
an
> abundance of vague pontificating. I know this can't be a legal document,
and
> I don't think it should be, but it must be undergirded by convictions,
force
> even. We know the Web is a wondrous thing, perhaps The Wondrous Thing
> of our age - so why doesn't this come across in this document? Not to
> belabour the point, but building a big tent requires some really strong
> foundations and poles.
> >
> > But, well, that is out of scope for an APA review and I'm not even a
> member, so where does this leave me?
> >
> >
> >
> > Finally, to be clear, I have concrete ideas for wording. And no, I don't
want
> to burn the whole thing down. I just want it to reflect what the Web means
> to us all - us all in the global sense - and the importance of keeping and
> safeguarding it.
> >
> > Getting off my soapbox, I wish you all a happy weekend and look forward
> to any and all comments that may or may not arise from this message.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Fredrik
> >
> >
> > [1] https://www.w3.org/TR/2024/NOTE-w3c-vision-20241018/
> >
> >
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