Fwd: PR for Ping Re: Your APA Charter Suggestion

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> 发件人: Matthew Atkinson <matkinson@tpgi.com <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com>>
> 主题: 回复：PR for Ping Re: Your APA Charter Suggestion
> 日期: 2023年7月12日 GMT+8 01:32:12
> 收件人: Chaals Nevile <charles.nevile@consensys.net <mailto:charles.nevile@consensys.net>>, Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net <mailto:janina@rednote.net>>
> 抄送: APA Chairs <group-apa-chairs@w3.org <mailto:group-apa-chairs@w3.org>>
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> Hi Charles,
> 
> Thanks for your feedback. We believe the responsibility of actively tracking other groups is covered by the horizontal review responsibilities set out in the charter. We are unclear what additional deliverable would accentuate this, and do not think we can add a new deliverable without a new AC review. Therefore we hope you can accept the changes made to this point in response to your comments, and we appreciate that you did not mark your comments as blocking.
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> In PR 322 [1], we added a specific mention of coordination with the Privacy Interest Group as, being an interest group, they don't produce technical documents; we hope that this might mitigate some of your concerns.
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> Incidentally, in our Adapt task force, we're looking at the feasibility of doing some work based on a spec ("A Well-Known URL for Changing Passwords") that came out of the WebAppSec WG, as we see some user needs that might coincide with the work Adapt is doing. That's slightly tangential, but I noticed you mentioned WebAppSec, and agree that they're doing interesting work; thanks for mentioning it. We came across that spec via APA's horizontal review process, so perhaps that might also help allay some of your concerns too.
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> Thanks again for your feedback.
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> Best regards,
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> 
> Matthew
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> [1] https://github.com/w3c/apa/pull/332 <https://github.com/w3c/apa/pull/332>
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> On 20/06/2023, 13:46, "Chaals Nevile" <charles.nevile@consensys.net <mailto:charles.nevile@consensys.net><mailto:charles.nevile@consensys.net <mailto:charles.nevile@consensys.net>>> wrote:
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> It's less than optimal. Stating that the group has as a deliverable to
> follow the work of the other relevant groups would be a lot better.
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> cheers
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> On Monday, June 19, 2023 14:58:28 (+02:00), Janina Sajka wrote:
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>> Dear Charles:
>> 
>> With Matthew and Michael's +1, I've added a clause to the APA Charter
>> Mission Statement. Would this alleviate your concern and get you your
>> support for the Charter?
>> 
>> https://github.com/w3c/apa/pull/334 <https://github.com/w3c/apa/pull/334> <https://github.com/w3c/apa/pull/334 <https://github.com/w3c/apa/pull/334>>
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> Janina
>> 
>> Charles Nevile writes:
>>> 
>>> I'd be very happy for you to talk to i18n more - and especially to
> hear from
>>> them :)
>>> 
>>> I could live with the wording you propose. As well as Ping, there is
> the
>>> webappsec group that does security. I think it's important for APA to
> keep
>>> an eye on what those groups are doing.
>>> 
>>> cheers
>>> 
>>> On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 15:03:18 (+02:00), Janina Sajka wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi, Charles:
>>>>> Just a gentle reminder that we would like to resolve our proposed
> APA
>>>> Charter to meet your legitimate critique.
>>>>> Perhaps it might be easier, now that there's a "Secure the Web
> Forward
>>>> Workshop" again? We did actively participate in the Privacy meetings
>>>> last spring, for example.
>>>>> Would something like "monitor and participate in W3C Security and
>>>> Privacy work" do it? Any objection if we added I18N to the list?
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Janina
>>>>> Janina Sajka writes:
>>>>> Dear Charles:
>>>>>>> We're inclined to accept your critique of the proposed APA
> Charter
>>> as a
>>>>> friendly amendment because we agree that efforts to better secure
> web
>>>>> communications and protect user privacy can, and often does
> challenge
>>>>> accessibility support.. > > > >
>>> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/33280/apa-wg-recharter/results <https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/33280/apa-wg-recharter/results><https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/33280/apa-wg-recharter/results <https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/33280/apa-wg-recharter/results>>
>>>>>>> We could note our active participation in the W3C Privacy
> Workshop
>>>>> earlier this year, and our wide-ranging scoping conversation with
>>>>> Verifiable Credentials during the Vancouver TPAC last year, but
> neither
>>>>> of those items seem to fit a Charter.
>>>>>>> We note there is currently a Privacy IG, but nothing parallel
> for
>>>>> security.
>>>>>>> so, we're unclear what we might say differently in the
> Charter. Can
>>> you
>>>>> perhaps help with some suggested wording?
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>> Janina
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