- From: Matthew Atkinson <matkinson@tpgi.com>
- Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2022 16:15:09 +0000
- To: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>, W3C WAI Accessible Platform Architectures <public-apa@w3.org>
Hi all,
Minutes for today's call - thanks Fredrik for scribing - can be found at https://www.w3.org/2022/02/23-apa-minutes.html and below in plain text for convenience.
Best regards,
Matthew
– DRAFT –
APA Weekly Teleconference
23 Feb 2022
[2]IRC log.
[2] https://www.w3.org/2022/02/23-apa-irc
Attendees
Present
becky, David-Swallow, Fazio, Fredrik, janina,
Jonny_James, Joshue108, Lionel_Wolberger,
Matthew_Atkinson, PaulG, Roy
Regrets
-
Chair
Janina
Scribe
Fredrik
Contents
1. [3]Agenda Review & Announcements
2. [4]CfC on Maturity Model https://lists.w3.org/Archives/
Public/public-apa-admin/2022Feb/0000.html
3. [5]TPAC (12-16 September) Planning
4. [6]CSUN: To meet or not to meet on 16 March?
5. [7]Special Meeting re Reorganizing W3C on Wednesday 9 March
6. [8]Task Force & Deliverables Updates
1. [9]RQTF
2. [10]Personalization
7. [11]FAST and Maturity Model Deliverables Update
8. [12]New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/
issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+
requested%22
9. [13]A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/
horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
10. [14]new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
11. [15]Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/
track/actions/open
12. [16]Dangling Spec Review Cleanup: https://www.w3.org/WAI/
APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned
13. [17]Other Business
Meeting minutes
Agenda Review & Announcements
janina: We have a lot of agenda today. There will hopefully be
time for them all.
CfC on Maturity Model [18]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/
public-apa-admin/2022Feb/0000.html
[18] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa-admin/2022Feb/0000.html
janina: Are we comfortable in adopting what started out in AGWG
under the Silver taskforce as a working effort, now moving
forward?
janina: Some of us are interested in doing it. The threshold
question is: shall APA adopt Maturity Model?
janina: No negative communication thus far. The CFC is open on
the admin list until Marc 2 Midnight Boston time.
janina: No reason to wait til the last minute. Any reactions
welcome.
Lionel_Wolberger: As being someone who has important things to
move along, having a workload, can you communicate what
workload this would add to the APA group
janina: The workload will be maangeable coming with those who
have worked on it in AGWG. Fazio has worked on it, for
instance.
janina: The minimum expectation is that we read the minimum key
transition points.
janina: Before it becomes a FPWD.
janina: After that, it would be when the dcocument goes on a
second wide review. Taht could be the minimum. Anything in
between is acceptable.
Lionel_Wolberger: The focus of my question is if it comes witha
huge workload. I'm going to b e a +1 on it.
janina: I want to bring in some of the cross-deep-thought
emerging in my work with Silver conformance. We need to make
some things a little more specific.
janina: I'd like to see this be a really influential document.
I know Fazio cares about it immensely, as do I.
janina: We might get to FPWD before TPAC.
Matthew_Atkinson: A big +1 to all of this!
TPAC (12-16 September) Planning
janina: Thsi will be a standing agendum as usual, until half a
month after TPAC.
janina: There are dates. 12-16 of September. Location:
Vancouver, BC, Canada.
janina: It will be hybrid.
janina: Even though we don't know much more specifics, we want
a nose count on how many persons will be participating.
janina: Don't needc a full nose count today, but if you think
you can be vancouvering in September, tell us until next week.
<Fazio> I'l be there
janina: It's important because of space. W3C doesn't want to
spend money for spacd we won't be using.
Fredrik: I will be online.
becky: Having never been to a TPAC, I'd like a price estimate.
What should I expect?
janina: My guess is it'll be in the 200 buck-range. W3C usually
manages to negotiate a decent rate. You're not required to stay
in the conference hotel. Sometimes people find lodging nearby.
janina: Vancouver is fairly walkable. It's a time of year,
beautifully, on the west coast. It's better than summer.
CSUN: To meet or not to meet on 16 March?
janina: The reason this is there is because there will be an
in-person CSUN.
janina: In years past, when we've had a significant number of
people actually going in person to CSUN, we take the week off.
We can do that regardless, or we can say that we'd like to keep
working.
janina: I'd like to get a sense in teh next week of how many of
us are going to CSUN.
janina: Matthew is going.
janina: Let's decide nhext week whether we take the week off.
Special Meeting re Reorganizing W3C on Wednesday 9 March
janina: We have been asked to host all the WAI working groups.
Could we use the APA teleconference+
janina: There would be an e-mail about this possibly within the
next 24 hours. We'ölöl see how that goes.
janina: The meeting on the 9th of March wil be taken over for
discussin about the future of W3C as an organization.
janina: It's a loose consortium, nto a lot of formailty to it.
janina: That is not sustainable.
janina: W3C, to preserve the good work we've done today and for
the good in the future, people on the advisory board and
advisory committee and are coming to a proposedplan and get all
our concerns on the record.
janina: Two weeks from today, totally devoted to this.
janina: I will ask next swekk to pick a scribe beforehand.
janina: I'd also ask for someone to be our queue runner.
janina: Let's get all of that set up next week.
janina: Léonie Watson will be on the call, Chris Wilson will be
on the call, David Singer, a few other folks.
janina: W3C's equivalent of a board of directors will be coming
here to answer questioss.
Matthew_Atkinson: I volunteer to be the scribe.
Fredrik: I volunteer to be teh backup!
Lionel_Wolberger: I'll be teh queue runner.
janina: I wouldn't rely on all the q+es being on the IRC, but
also on Zoom.
Lionel_Wolberger: When is this meeting?
janina: Two week sform today at this hour.
Lionel_Wolberger: It's very exciting and daunting. I just want
to share that to position ourselves in the global standards
community over an identity...
Lionel_Wolberger: What i want to point out is a layer of what
it means to be a global standards group that... All I know is
that there is a whole art to it that I know little about.
Lionel_Wolberger: Mighjt this be the wrong people for the
meeting?
janina: The people that are coming, and those are at least
five-six people, have been the right people who have been
discussing this for years. There has been some back and forth
drafting this announcement.
janina: It has gotten attentinoa t the right level, hopefully.
What is happening here is whta they think the framework needs
to be and the question if htis raises any concerns or if this
works out.
janina: A11y is one key area of W3C's success. This is
something that hould be preserved in the new legal entity.
Lionel_Wolberger: In other words, they have a proposition they
are shopping around to the major working groups.
janina: That is an absolutely excellent concern to raise and
I'm glad to allay thnose concerns now to use their time better
when they get here.
Task Force & Deliverables Updates
janina: Brevity!
RQTF
janina: RQTF: we will be asking Timed text if they want to
juointly publish with us. We expect there willbe another wide
review draft.
janina: Other docuemnts also moving forward coming closer to
publication. Nothing before CSUN though.
Personalization
janina: We are done with our show and tell.
Matthew_Atkinson: The updatews we believe are required have
been made to the extension. We're just giving some grace period
for our W3C experts to look at it. We probably wil just press
ahead regardless pretty soon.
janina: In the case of getting a really solid branding name for
this, EO has gotten deply involved and hopefully that will have
a great outcome.
FAST and Maturity Model Deliverables Update
janina: Josh?
Joshue108: Nothing for this week, catually. A miscommunciation.
The rewas a meeting on Tuesday, nobody showed up.
janina: Are they areare publication will migrate back here to
APA?
Joshue108: We've discussed moving form Silver Functional Needs
to APA.
Joshue108: They are aware.
New Charters Review [19]https://github.com/w3c/strategy/
issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%2
2
[19] https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is:issue+is:open+label:"Horizontal+review+requested"
Roy: MIchael wil join us in a couple of minutes. Mayube we can
get back to this agendum later?
Roy: He is trying to join us now.
janina: For next week, perhaps ping MichaelC a bit before the
actual Michael block. We'll think of that.
<MichaelC> [20]https://w3c.github.io/wot/charters/
wot-wg-2022-ext.html
[20] https://w3c.github.io/wot/charters/wot-wg-2022-ext.html
MichaelC: Web of Things has sort of been floating.
MichaelC: We've worked with them for a long time and filed
comments on their specs and so on. Are we ready to sign off on
it?
MichaelC: Judy asked them to add ot the a11y section.
janina: If they do, I think we can sign off on it.
janina: There are implications that we may want certain things
in APIs that we don't have right now. We may want registry
metadata.
MichaelC: We still have some specs for tracking.
<MichaelC> [21]https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/301
[21] https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/301
MichaelC: Next charter: Dataset Specs working group.
MichaelC: They catalogue vocabulary, content negotiation
profile.
MichaelC: I don't know that we have comments.
<MichaelC> [22]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/
Content_Negotiation_by_Profile
[22] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Content_Negotiation_by_Profile
MichaelC: Three years qago we said no need to review.
MichaelC: We could pick it up again.
<MichaelC> [23]https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/302
[23] https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/302
MichaelC: The next charter we have is Immersive Web WG. WebXR.
MichaelC: There is a llink to us, a standardized link.
MichaelC: This is the one where Judy was telling me that we
should ask for them to add the XAUR as a part of the
dependencies.
janina: The XAUR is not a spec.
MichaelC: Judy put in acomment recommending adding a link to
the XAUR.
janina: Anything want something stronger?
<MichaelC> [24]https://github.com/w3c/immersive-web-wg-charter/
pull/52/files
[24] https://github.com/w3c/immersive-web-wg-charter/pull/52/files
MichaelC: They already have a pull request taking up Juduy's
suggestion.
janina: It's a friendly group.
A11y Review Comment Tracker [25]https://w3c.github.io/
horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
[25] https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
<MichaelC> [26]https://github.com/w3c/imsc-hrm/pull/41
[26] https://github.com/w3c/imsc-hrm/pull/41
janina: We may need to look at this.
<Joshue108> WebXR Standards and Accessibility Architecture
Issues [27]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/
WebXR_Standards_and_Accessibility_Architecture_Issues
[27] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/WebXR_Standards_and_Accessibility_Architecture_Issues
<MichaelC> [28]https://w3c.github.io/imsc-hrm/spec/
imsc-hrm.html
[28] https://w3c.github.io/imsc-hrm/spec/imsc-hrm.html
<MichaelC> [29]https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/7490
[29] https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/7490
FRedrik gets to look at the IMSC spec. Get back in three weeks
please.
MichaelC: And taht's it.
new on TR [30]http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
[30] http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
MichaelC: Nothing new.
Actions Checkin (Specs) [31]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/
open
[31] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open
Roy: There was a suggestion for an issue in Github.
janina: It might be that the a11y considerations may not b
enormative, but it sounds normative the way the English is
written.
Roy: There may be some misunderstandings tude to translation
issues.
janina: As longas you understand it, Roy, we're probably good.
Dangling Spec Review Cleanup: [32]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/
Category:Spec_Review_Assigned
[32] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned
<MichaelC> [33]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/
Category:Spec_Review_Assigned
[33] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned
MichaelC: Aside from CSS specs, there is a load of specs we
could review now.
MichaelC: one of DOM that's overcome by events.
MichaelC: We need to restrategize how we review WhatWG
snapshots.
janina: Thank you Michael, we will be back on that item.
Other Business
Matthew_Atkinson: I have a couple of subsitutions to put
throughn on the minmutes. I'll just pasting those in.
Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by
[34]scribe.perl version 185 (Thu Dec 2 18:51:55 2021 UTC).
[34] https://w3c.github.io/scribe2/scribedoc.html
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PLEASE NOTE THE CHANGED TIME OF THE CALL: IT IS NOW 10am BOSTON.
Zoom teleconference info is available at this non-public page:
https://www.w3.org/2017/08/telecon-info_apa
Minutes from our last teleconference are available at:
https://www.w3.org/2022/02/16-apa-minutes.html
What: APA Weekly Teleconference
When: Wednesday 23 February
10:00 AM Boston -- U.S. Eastern Time (EST: UTC -5:00)
Corresponding times in other time zones are:
http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=APA+Teleconference&iso=20220223T10&p1=43&ah=1
Where: Zoom Teleconference Service
https://www.w3.org/2017/08/telecon-info_apa
IRC: irc.w3.org Channel: #apa
Additional logistics below
** Preliminary Agenda for APA WG Telecon Wednesday 23 February 2022
PLEASE NOTE THE CHANGED TIME OF THE CALL: IT IS NOW 10am BOSTON.
Chair: Janina
agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
agenda+ CfC on Maturity Model https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa-admin/2022Feb/0000.html
agenda+ TPAC (12-16 September) Planning
agenda+ CSUN: To meet or not to meet on 16 March?
agenda+ Special Meeting re Reorganizing W3C on Wednesday 9 March
agenda+ Task Force & Deliverables Updates
agenda+ FAST and Maturity Model Deliverables Update
agenda+ New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22
agenda+ A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
agenda+ new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
agenda+ Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open
agenda+ Dangling Spec Review Cleanup: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned
agenda+ Other Business
agenda+ be done
Resource: APA & Task Force Teleconference Minutes
APA: https://www.w3.org/2022/02/16-apa-minutes.html
RQTF: http://www.w3.org/2022/02/16-rqtf-minutes.html
COGA TF: https://www.w3.org/2022/02/17-coga-minutes.html
p13n: https://www.w3.org/2022/02/14-personalization-minutes.html
Pronunciation: https://www.w3.org/2022/02/09-pronunciation-minutes.html
Additional resources for APA at:
https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Key_Resources_and_Links
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