Re: Agenda: APA WEEKLY Teleconference; Wednesday 7 December at 1500Z

Hello all,

Please find today's minutes at https://www.w3.org/2022/12/07-apa-minutes.html and below, in text form, for convenience.

Best regards,


Matthew

                             – DRAFT –
                       APA Weekly Teleconference

07 Dec 2022

   [2]IRC log.

      [2] https://www.w3.org/2022/12/07-apa-irc


Attendees

   Present
          Alisa_Smith, janina, matatk, mike_beganyi, niklasegger,
          PaulG, Roy

   Regrets
          Becky_Gibson, Fredrik_Fischer, Lionel

   Chair
          Janina

   Scribe
          matatk

Contents

    1. [3]Agenda Review & Announcements
    2. [4]Advancing Adapt Symbols to CR
    3. [5]New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/

       issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+
       requested%22
    4. [6]Dangling Spec Review Cleanup: https://www.w3.org/WAI/

       APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned
         1. [7]Autoplay Policy Detection
         2. [8]Verifiable Credential Data Integrity 1.0
    5. [9]CSS Update (Paul) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues

         1. [10]no-motion
         2. [11]fragment url()
         3. [12]animate display:none
         4. [13]ruby spacing
    6. [14]Task Force & Deliverables Updates
         1. [15]Pronunciation
         2. [16]Adapt
         3. [17]Maturity Model (?)
    7. [18]Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/

       track/actions/open
         1. [19]Web of Things
    8. [20]Other Business
    9. [21]be done
   10. [22]Summary of resolutions

Meeting minutes

  Agenda Review & Announcements

   janina: Matthew, Lionel and I participated in the W3C Workshop
   on Permissions (virtually). We learnt quite a bit, and have
   work to follow up on. We'll let you know when the workshop
   report is out.
   … We've made connections for some of the work, particularly
   edge-related, that we started in TPAC (e.g. verifiable
   credentials).

   matatk: I got insights from the workshop into ways the UA is
   acting on behalf of the user.

   janina: Note: APA _is_ meeting next week.

  Advancing Adapt Symbols to CR

   janina: We have a resolution from our Adapt TF.

   <janina> [23]https://www.w3.org/2022/12/

   05-adapt-minutes.html#r01

     [23] https://www.w3.org/2022/12/05-adapt-minutes.html#r01


   janina: Adapt TF has asked us to move the Symbols Module
   forward to CR. We do not believe we need a new CfC, because
   this module is the result of removing (for now) the non-symbol
   attributes.

   janina: We met with TAG during TPAC and they agreed, as do we,
   that symbols is the best-architected part. So we have removed
   the rest for now, and are investigating the other work
   separately.

   <janina> [24]https://www.w3.org/2022/12/

   05-adapt-minutes.html#r015

     [24] https://www.w3.org/2022/12/05-adapt-minutes.html#r015


   janina: The Symbols Module depends on our new AAC Registry, the
   FPWD of which was just approved overnight.

   janina: Does anyone object, and believe that another CfC is
   required? We do not believe so, but if you have concerns,
   questions, please raise them here.

   <janina> DRAFT RESOLUTION: APA confirms support for advancing
   Adapt Symbol Module to CR based on our previous consensus which
   included symbols logged at [25]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/

   Public/public-apa-admin/2022Aug/0058.html

     [25] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa-admin/2022Aug/0058.html


   janina: Any concerns about this resolution?

   RESOLUTION: APA confirms support for advancing Adapt Symbol
   Module to CR based on our previous consensus which included
   symbols logged at [26]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/

   public-apa-admin/2022Aug/0058.html

     [26] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa-admin/2022Aug/0058.html


   janina: This truly is groundbreaking work.

   +1

  New Charters Review [27]https://github.com/w3c/strategy/

  issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%2
  2

     [27] https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is:issue+is:open+label:"Horizontal+review+requested"

   Roy: No new charters, no new issues, and nothing new on TR this
   week.

  Dangling Spec Review Cleanup: [28]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/

  Category:Spec_Review_Assigned

     [28] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned


    Autoplay Policy Detection

   <Roy> - TR: [29]https://www.w3.org/TR/autoplay-detection/


     [29] https://www.w3.org/TR/autoplay-detection/


   <Roy> - tracking: [30]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/

   Autoplay_Policy_Detection

     [30] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Autoplay_Policy_Detection


    Verifiable Credential Data Integrity 1.0

   <Roy> - TR: [31]https://www.w3.org/TR/vc-data-integrity


     [31] https://www.w3.org/TR/vc-data-integrity


   <Roy> - tracking: [32]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/

   Verifiable_Credential_Data_Integrity_1.0

     [32] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Verifiable_Credential_Data_Integrity_1.0


   <Roy> - review by Lionel: [33]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/

   Public/public-apa/2022Nov/0045.html

     [33] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2022Nov/0045.html


   <Roy> [34]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/

   UI_Events_KeyboardEvent_code_Values

     [34] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/UI_Events_KeyboardEvent_code_Values


   <Roy> [35]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/

   UI_Events_KeyboardEvent_key_Values

     [35] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/UI_Events_KeyboardEvent_key_Values


  CSS Update (Paul) [36]https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues


     [36] https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues


    no-motion

   <PaulG> [37]https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/7440


     [37] https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/7440


   PaulG: One option suggested was an "important" directive to
   override motion. I think the UA should control this ultimately.
   A general path forward, involving adding some ability to
   continue to reduce motion, was agreed.

    fragment url()

   <PaulG> [38]https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/3320


     [38] https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/3320


   PaulG: this is about clarifying expectations about how the URL
   is resolved.
   … This is only for IDs.

   PaulG: This one didn't seem a11y-related

    animate display:none

   <PaulG> [39]https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/6429


     [39] https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/6429


   PaulG: This one is about how some properties can't be animated.
   … Trying to make it more intuitive for developers.
   … Shouldn't affect animations or anything like that; just a
   technique for how the animation is executed.

    ruby spacing

   <PaulG> [40]https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5995


     [40] https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5995


   janina: Are we piggybacking on this with Symbols?

   PaulG: This is more about how whitespace is stripped or not, in
   different cases. i18n is being consulted on it.

   PaulG: I mentioned the work on AAC symbols, but in current
   prototypes e.g. from matatk the symbols have their own spacing,
   margins.
   … Spacing is a little more important with Ruby because the
   rubies need to line up precisely wiht the charactrs. For
   Symbols, it is a bit more coarse and the text will need to be
   re-laid out to accommodate the symbols.

  Task Force & Deliverables Updates

    Pronunciation

   janina: PaulG: Does the new proposed time work for you?

   PaulG: Yes; that time looks generally good.

   janina: Will check up on having a call next week.
   … I have an action to re-write the draft response to WHATWG. We
   may need to work with the WICG, too.

    Adapt

   janina: As above - some key work finished, and AAC Registry
   FPWD will be published next Tuesday we hope.
   … Also, we hope, the Symbols Module CR, before the moratorium.
   … The Explainer has been, and will be, updated, so we should
   publish an updated draft of that too.

    Maturity Model (?)

   janina: We're going to propose making MM a TF, probably in
   January. We'll run a CfC on this.
   … They've started working on a Work Statement, which will be
   reviewed shortly.
   … In the new year, APA is re-chartering, so we'll be asking you
   about making MM a TF then.

  Actions Checkin (Specs) [41]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/

  open

     [41] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open


   matatk: Suggest everyone reads and comments, if needed, on
   Lionel's review, posted to the list: Action item: Review
   Verifiable Credential Data Integrity: [42]https://lists.w3.org/

   Archives/Public/public-apa/2022Nov/0045.html

     [42] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2022Nov/0045.html


    Web of Things

   niklasegger: Have been looking at the spec; have a few
   questions.
   … Gottfried planning to review between Christmas and New Year,
   and deliver report in the new year. Is that too late?

   janina: No, that's fine. We didn't block their CR, but we can
   put in any comments before the CR closes.

   niklasegger: The original question posted by WoT was if the
   Architecture doc should have an accessibility section. I talked
   with Gottfried and he had some more ideas, which relate to WoT
   in general, e.g. including more semantic info in the
   ThingDescription, (e.g. type of the device; it's location).
   Should we consider these things too, or is it too late?

   janina: No it's not too late. Do you recall they have profiles,
   and they created an accessibility considerations section for
   the profiles. I think it needs a little more than what they
   have. We should decide on those together. Whether it goes into
   the Architecture spec, or Profiles, I'm not sure.
   … Also I want to capture what we called "middleware"
   accessibilty issues, which we raised with the group earlier,
   and the importance of making consumers aware of those
   issues/requirements in advance.

   niklasegger: Thanks; we'll keep you updated.

  Other Business

  be done

   janina: Thank you very much everyone for your time and good
   work, of which there is quite a bit being done!

   janina: See you next week!

Summary of resolutions

    1. [43]APA confirms support for advancing Adapt Symbol Module
       to CR based on our previous consensus which included
       symbols logged at https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/

       public-apa-admin/2022Aug/0058.html


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     [44] https://w3c.github.io/scribe2/scribedoc.html


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