Re: Agenda: APA WEEKLY Teleconference; Wednesday 31 August at 1400Z

Hi all,

Please find today's minutes at https://www.w3.org/2022/08/31-apa-minutes.html and repeated below in text form for convenience. Welcome again to Harry!

Best regards,


Matthew

                             – DRAFT –
     Accessible Platform Architectures (APA) Weekly Teleconference

31 Aug 2022

   [2]IRC log.

      [2] https://www.w3.org/2022/08/31-apa-irc


Attendees

   Present
          alii, Alisa_Smith, Fredrik, irfan_ali, janina, Joshue,
          Joshue108, Lionel, Matthew_Atkinson, mike_beganyi,
          nadine, niklasegger, PaulG, Roy

   Regrets
          -

   Chair
          Janina

   Scribe
          Matthew_Atkinson

Contents

    1. [3]Agenda Review & Announcements
    2. [4]New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/

       issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+
       requested%22
    3. [5]New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/

       issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+
       requested%22
    4. [6]A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/

       horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
    5. [7]new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html

    6. [8]Dangling Spec Review Cleanup: https://www.w3.org/WAI/

       APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned
    7. [9]TPAC22 https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/

       TPAC_2022
         1. [10]Web of Things Accessibility
         2. [11]AGWG and APA Joint Meeting
         3. [12]AGWG and APA Joint Meeting (with COGA)
         4. [13]APA & Web Performance Joint Meeting
         5. [14]Coordinating comment guidance and WG participation
            responsibility (APA Hosted Discussion)
         6. [15]Spoken Presentation (APA Task Force)
         7. [16]APA & WHAT-WG Open Issues Joint Meeting
         8. [17]APA & Publishing Joint Meeting
         9. [18]Real-Time Communications & APA Joint Meeting
        10. [19]CSS & APA Joint Meeting
        11. [20]APA & Verifiable Credentials Joint Meeting
        12. [21]Timed-Text & APA Joint Meeting
        13. [22]Spoken Presentation (APA Task Force)
        14. [23]ARIA & APA Joint Meeting
        15. [24]Unscheduled meetings
    8. [25]Task Force & Deliverables Updates
    9. [26]TPAC22 https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/

       TPAC_2022
   10. [27]Other Business
   11. [28]be done

Meeting minutes

   <janina> /join #rqtf

   <PaulG> (I can't scribe today, I need to leave at the bottom of
   the hour)

  Agenda Review & Announcements

  New Charters Review [29]https://github.com/w3c/strategy/

  issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%2
  2

     [29] https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is:issue+is:open+label:"Horizontal+review+requested"

  New Charters Review [30]https://github.com/w3c/strategy/

  issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%2
  2

     [30] https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is:issue+is:open+label:"Horizontal+review+requested"

   janina: We communicated the results of our discussion about
   "sometimes" to AG chairs.

   janina: They may not yet have had time to respond about
   removing "sometimes"; they are likely busy publishing their CR
   before the moratorium (they can do this even with our
   objection), and planning TPAC.

   janina: Regarding the charter: the existing charter was
   extended; management approved the proposed charter and
   forwarded to the AC for their decision.

  A11y Review Comment Tracker [31]https://w3c.github.io/

  horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review

     [31] https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review


  new on TR [32]http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html


     [32] http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html


  Dangling Spec Review Cleanup: [33]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/

  Category:Spec_Review_Assigned

     [33] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned


  TPAC22 [34]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2022


     [34] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2022


   janina: The wiki page is now almost complete. We've been busy
   on your behalf. We have all except 2 meetings scheduled (we're
   waiting to hear from i18n and the TAG).

   janina: On Tuesday afternoon there's the opportunity for Spoken
   Presentation to respond to ARIA. PaulG, irfan_ali: please put a
   pointer to the TF's document in the wiki.

   janina: We aim to get closer to a solution after discussion
   with ARIA.

   janina: On Thursday, Dan Burnett will be joining us virtually,
   to take up an SSML questions.
   … Also on the call will be Debbie Dahl who worked on Emotional
   Markup Language (EML) some time back. Debbie's given us a code
   snippet that I am to share.
   … The questions about indicating gender, age, and emotions of
   voice can be addressed by this.
   … (At the markup level at least.)
   … Still hoping to get a meeting with i18n; we'll keep trying.
   Think they're busy/on long vacation.
   … We're waiting to hear from the TAG on other issues.

   PaulG: I will be prepping for the meeting over the next couple
   of weeks. We have a Google Doc I started; I'll go amend it and
   post as wiki page (for accessibility) for irfan_ali to review.

   janina: Let's walk through the wiki...

    Web of Things Accessibility

   [35]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/

   TPAC_2022#Web_of_Things_Accessibility

     [35] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2022#Web_of_Things_Accessibility


   janina: This is actually _before_ TPAC (in RQTF's slot, before
   this one, next week).

   janina: They're using WebEx but Zoom is better for
   accessibility. We will dial in. Our main question for WoT...
   … we need to put accessibility into the full stack "works with
   [voice assistant]" isn't true in practice if the 'configure it
   to work with X' part is not accessible.
   … What do you do when a device loses connection to the
   environment? What if it's inaccessible to reset?
   … We have lots of issues here and need to make sure they get
   documented and included in product requirements and
   documentation/packaging.

    AGWG and APA Joint Meeting

   [36]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/

   TPAC_2022#AGWG_and_APA_Joint_Meeting

     [36] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2022#AGWG_and_APA_Joint_Meeting

   janina: We'll be joining AGWG (and COGA) for the whole morning
   on Monday.
   … The first slot is on Functional Needs. Then a break, then...

    AGWG and APA Joint Meeting (with COGA)

   [37]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/

   TPAC_2022#AGWG_and_APA_Joint_Meeting_2

     [37] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2022#AGWG_and_APA_Joint_Meeting_2


    APA & Web Performance Joint Meeting

   [38]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/

   TPAC_2022#APA_.26_Web_Performance_Joint_Meeting

     [38] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2022#APA_.26_Web_Performance_Joint_Meeting


   janina: This is about the Reporting API. Check the wiki for
   questions.

   janina: We think this could provide many interesting
   applications over time; want to find out how it works and what
   we can expect from it.

    Coordinating comment guidance and WG participation responsibility
    (APA Hosted Discussion)

   [39]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/

   TPAC_2022#Coordinating_comment_guidance_and_WG_participation_re
   sponsibility_.28APA_Hosted_Discussion.29

     [39] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2022#Coordinating_comment_guidance_and_WG_participation_responsibility_.28APA_Hosted_Discussion.29


   janina: APA-hosted discussion on how best to get comments on
   our published documents.

   janina: We often get inaccessible (to us) submissions. Things
   not separated into discrete issues, or in inaccessible formats.

   janina: We had a discussion on the last WAI coordination call
   about not just how to accommodate people's access needs
   (something we're always working to expand) but also the
   responsibilities of others to work collaboratively with us.

   janina: We may want to update the Code of Ethics and
   Professional Conduct (CEPC) [pleaes read it; we've all agreed
   to it]

    Spoken Presentation (APA Task Force)

   [40]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/

   TPAC_2022#Spoken_Presentation_.28APA_Task_Force.29

     [40] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2022#Spoken_Presentation_.28APA_Task_Force.29


   janina: as discussed above

   Oops; link above was wrong; the first ARIA meeting is:
   [41]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/

   TPAC_2022#ARIA_.26_APA_Joint_Meeting

     [41] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2022#ARIA_.26_APA_Joint_Meeting


    APA & WHAT-WG Open Issues Joint Meeting

   [42]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/

   TPAC_2022#APA_.26_WHAT-WG_Open_Issues_Joint_Meeting

     [42] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2022#APA_.26_WHAT-WG_Open_Issues_Joint_Meeting


   janina: A couple of issues here; Adapt and also others such as
   notifications.

    APA & Publishing Joint Meeting

   [43]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/

   TPAC_2022#APA_.26_Publishing_Joint_Meeting

     [43] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2022#APA_.26_Publishing_Joint_Meeting


   janina: Uncomon to have an 8am meeting, but we wish to include
   those around the globe.

   janina: Lots of agenda to cover here (check the wiki).

    Real-Time Communications & APA Joint Meeting

   [44]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/

   TPAC_2022#Real-Time_Communications_.26_APA_Joint_Meeting

     [44] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2022#Real-Time_Communications_.26_APA_Joint_Meeting


   janina: We want to ensure that this continues to be an
   accessible environemnt. We are listening to find out what
   they're working on. We may raise some concerns if any arise.
   They don't have any specific issues.

   Lionel: How does this overlap with virtual meetings?

   janina: They're one and the same.

    CSS & APA Joint Meeting

   [45]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/

   TPAC_2022#CSS_.26_APA_Joint_Meeting

     [45] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2022#CSS_.26_APA_Joint_Meeting


   janina: Our standing meeting with CSS. Lots to cover!

   Lionel: Do we have that we're seeking a representative?

   janina: Yes

    APA & Verifiable Credentials Joint Meeting

   [46]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/

   TPAC_2022#APA_.26_Verifiable_Credentials_Joint_Meeting

     [46] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2022#APA_.26_Verifiable_Credentials_Joint_Meeting


   janina: We're seeing a lot of opportunities here, with tech
   that's been in devleopment for a decade, and is now making it
   to production.

   janina: We want to introduce our thinking and test the
   temperature. We want to move slowly, but see lots of
   opportunity for building on their work.

   Lionel: Our interest is in privacy-preserving profiles. VC's
   work has been designed to preserve privacy; we're very excited
   by this!

    Timed-Text & APA Joint Meeting

   [47]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/

   TPAC_2022#Timed-Text_.26_APA_Joint_Meeting

     [47] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2022#Timed-Text_.26_APA_Joint_Meeting


   janina: We've just had this accepted; they see the need for us
   to work with them on getting this published.

    Spoken Presentation (APA Task Force)

   [48]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/

   TPAC_2022#Spoken_Presentation_.28APA_Task_Force.29

     [48] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2022#Spoken_Presentation_.28APA_Task_Force.29


   janina: SSML and EML, as discussed.

   janina: Note: "Spoken Presentation" is the official name for
   the TF; "Pronunciation" is how we refer to it informally.

    ARIA & APA Joint Meeting

   [49]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/

   TPAC_2022#ARIA_.26_APA_Joint_Meeting_2

     [49] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2022#ARIA_.26_APA_Joint_Meeting_2


   janina: This is Adapt-focused. We have a couple of issues
   arising from Adapt, and ARIA has an issue for which Adapt may
   be a solution (decorative images). Check the wiki for agenda.

    Unscheduled meetings

   janina: As above, we want to talk with i18n and Technical
   Advisory Group (TAG) [important when advancing normative
   specificaitons, such as the Adapt Candidate Recommendation's
   eventual goal].

  Task Force & Deliverables Updates

   janina: We have a few documents awaiting publication from TFs.

   janina: APA has given the TFs standing authority to update
   working drafts (WDs), so RQTF's resolution is sufficient to
   proceed with publication.

   janina: Note that we would absolutely need management and APA
   approval on First Public Working Drafts (FPWD), Candidate
   Recommendation (CR) and above. But we allow our Task Forces
   (TFs) to publish updated Working Drafts (WDs) on their own.

  TPAC22 [50]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2022


     [50] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2022


  Other Business

  be done

   janina: Welcome again to Harry; well done everyone. We will
   meet next week as normal, and at TPAC as above, but no APA call
   the week after TPAC.


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    Zoom teleconference info is available at this non-public page:
            https://www.w3.org/2017/08/telecon-info_apa


    Minutes from our last teleconference are available at:
    https://www.w3.org/2022/08/24-apa-minutes.html


    What:   APA Weekly Teleconference
    When:   Wednesday 31 August
            10:00 AM        Boston -- U.S. Eastern  Time            (EDT: UTC -4:00)
            Corresponding times in other time zones are:
            http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=APA+Teleconference&iso=20220831T10&p1=43&ah=1

    Where:  Zoom Teleconference Service
            https://www.w3.org/2017/08/telecon-info_apa

            IRC: irc.w3.org Channel: #apa
            Additional logistics below

    ** Preliminary Agenda for APA WG Telecon Wednesday 31 August 2022

    Chair:  Janina
    agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
    agenda+ New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22

    agenda+ A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review

    agenda+ new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html

    agenda+ Dangling Spec Review Cleanup: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned

    agenda+ TPAC22 https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2022

    agenda+ Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open

    agenda+ Task Force & Deliverables Updates
    agenda+ Other Business
    agenda+ be done

    Resource: APA & Task Force Teleconference Minutes
    APA:            https://www.w3.org/2022/08/24-apa-minutes.html

    RQTF:           http://www.w3.org/2022/08/24-rqtf-minutes.html

    COGA TF:        https://www.w3.org/2022/08/25-coga-minutes.html

    Adapt:          https://www.w3.org/2022/08/29-adapt-minutes

    Pronunciation:  https://www.w3.org/2022/08/10-pronunciation-minutes.html

    Maturity Model: https://www.w3.org/2022/08/17-maturity-minutes.html


    Additional resources for APA at:
    https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Key_Resources_and_Links



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