- From: Matthew Atkinson <matkinson@tpgi.com>
- Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2022 14:58:31 +0000
- To: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>, W3C WAI Accessible Platform Architectures <public-apa@w3.org>
Hi all,
Please find today's minutes at https://www.w3.org/2022/08/31-apa-minutes.html and repeated below in text form for convenience. Welcome again to Harry!
Best regards,
Matthew
– DRAFT –
Accessible Platform Architectures (APA) Weekly Teleconference
31 Aug 2022
[2]IRC log.
[2] https://www.w3.org/2022/08/31-apa-irc
Attendees
Present
alii, Alisa_Smith, Fredrik, irfan_ali, janina, Joshue,
Joshue108, Lionel, Matthew_Atkinson, mike_beganyi,
nadine, niklasegger, PaulG, Roy
Regrets
-
Chair
Janina
Scribe
Matthew_Atkinson
Contents
1. [3]Agenda Review & Announcements
2. [4]New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/
issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+
requested%22
3. [5]New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/
issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+
requested%22
4. [6]A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/
horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
5. [7]new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
6. [8]Dangling Spec Review Cleanup: https://www.w3.org/WAI/
APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned
7. [9]TPAC22 https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/
TPAC_2022
1. [10]Web of Things Accessibility
2. [11]AGWG and APA Joint Meeting
3. [12]AGWG and APA Joint Meeting (with COGA)
4. [13]APA & Web Performance Joint Meeting
5. [14]Coordinating comment guidance and WG participation
responsibility (APA Hosted Discussion)
6. [15]Spoken Presentation (APA Task Force)
7. [16]APA & WHAT-WG Open Issues Joint Meeting
8. [17]APA & Publishing Joint Meeting
9. [18]Real-Time Communications & APA Joint Meeting
10. [19]CSS & APA Joint Meeting
11. [20]APA & Verifiable Credentials Joint Meeting
12. [21]Timed-Text & APA Joint Meeting
13. [22]Spoken Presentation (APA Task Force)
14. [23]ARIA & APA Joint Meeting
15. [24]Unscheduled meetings
8. [25]Task Force & Deliverables Updates
9. [26]TPAC22 https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/
TPAC_2022
10. [27]Other Business
11. [28]be done
Meeting minutes
<janina> /join #rqtf
<PaulG> (I can't scribe today, I need to leave at the bottom of
the hour)
Agenda Review & Announcements
New Charters Review [29]https://github.com/w3c/strategy/
issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%2
2
[29] https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is:issue+is:open+label:"Horizontal+review+requested"
New Charters Review [30]https://github.com/w3c/strategy/
issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%2
2
[30] https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is:issue+is:open+label:"Horizontal+review+requested"
janina: We communicated the results of our discussion about
"sometimes" to AG chairs.
janina: They may not yet have had time to respond about
removing "sometimes"; they are likely busy publishing their CR
before the moratorium (they can do this even with our
objection), and planning TPAC.
janina: Regarding the charter: the existing charter was
extended; management approved the proposed charter and
forwarded to the AC for their decision.
A11y Review Comment Tracker [31]https://w3c.github.io/
horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
[31] https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
new on TR [32]http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
[32] http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
Dangling Spec Review Cleanup: [33]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/
Category:Spec_Review_Assigned
[33] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned
TPAC22 [34]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2022
[34] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2022
janina: The wiki page is now almost complete. We've been busy
on your behalf. We have all except 2 meetings scheduled (we're
waiting to hear from i18n and the TAG).
janina: On Tuesday afternoon there's the opportunity for Spoken
Presentation to respond to ARIA. PaulG, irfan_ali: please put a
pointer to the TF's document in the wiki.
janina: We aim to get closer to a solution after discussion
with ARIA.
janina: On Thursday, Dan Burnett will be joining us virtually,
to take up an SSML questions.
… Also on the call will be Debbie Dahl who worked on Emotional
Markup Language (EML) some time back. Debbie's given us a code
snippet that I am to share.
… The questions about indicating gender, age, and emotions of
voice can be addressed by this.
… (At the markup level at least.)
… Still hoping to get a meeting with i18n; we'll keep trying.
Think they're busy/on long vacation.
… We're waiting to hear from the TAG on other issues.
PaulG: I will be prepping for the meeting over the next couple
of weeks. We have a Google Doc I started; I'll go amend it and
post as wiki page (for accessibility) for irfan_ali to review.
janina: Let's walk through the wiki...
Web of Things Accessibility
[35]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/
TPAC_2022#Web_of_Things_Accessibility
[35] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2022#Web_of_Things_Accessibility
janina: This is actually _before_ TPAC (in RQTF's slot, before
this one, next week).
janina: They're using WebEx but Zoom is better for
accessibility. We will dial in. Our main question for WoT...
… we need to put accessibility into the full stack "works with
[voice assistant]" isn't true in practice if the 'configure it
to work with X' part is not accessible.
… What do you do when a device loses connection to the
environment? What if it's inaccessible to reset?
… We have lots of issues here and need to make sure they get
documented and included in product requirements and
documentation/packaging.
AGWG and APA Joint Meeting
[36]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/
TPAC_2022#AGWG_and_APA_Joint_Meeting
[36] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2022#AGWG_and_APA_Joint_Meeting
janina: We'll be joining AGWG (and COGA) for the whole morning
on Monday.
… The first slot is on Functional Needs. Then a break, then...
AGWG and APA Joint Meeting (with COGA)
[37]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/
TPAC_2022#AGWG_and_APA_Joint_Meeting_2
[37] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2022#AGWG_and_APA_Joint_Meeting_2
APA & Web Performance Joint Meeting
[38]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/
TPAC_2022#APA_.26_Web_Performance_Joint_Meeting
[38] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2022#APA_.26_Web_Performance_Joint_Meeting
janina: This is about the Reporting API. Check the wiki for
questions.
janina: We think this could provide many interesting
applications over time; want to find out how it works and what
we can expect from it.
Coordinating comment guidance and WG participation responsibility
(APA Hosted Discussion)
[39]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/
TPAC_2022#Coordinating_comment_guidance_and_WG_participation_re
sponsibility_.28APA_Hosted_Discussion.29
[39] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2022#Coordinating_comment_guidance_and_WG_participation_responsibility_.28APA_Hosted_Discussion.29
janina: APA-hosted discussion on how best to get comments on
our published documents.
janina: We often get inaccessible (to us) submissions. Things
not separated into discrete issues, or in inaccessible formats.
janina: We had a discussion on the last WAI coordination call
about not just how to accommodate people's access needs
(something we're always working to expand) but also the
responsibilities of others to work collaboratively with us.
janina: We may want to update the Code of Ethics and
Professional Conduct (CEPC) [pleaes read it; we've all agreed
to it]
Spoken Presentation (APA Task Force)
[40]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/
TPAC_2022#Spoken_Presentation_.28APA_Task_Force.29
[40] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2022#Spoken_Presentation_.28APA_Task_Force.29
janina: as discussed above
Oops; link above was wrong; the first ARIA meeting is:
[41]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/
TPAC_2022#ARIA_.26_APA_Joint_Meeting
[41] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2022#ARIA_.26_APA_Joint_Meeting
APA & WHAT-WG Open Issues Joint Meeting
[42]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/
TPAC_2022#APA_.26_WHAT-WG_Open_Issues_Joint_Meeting
[42] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2022#APA_.26_WHAT-WG_Open_Issues_Joint_Meeting
janina: A couple of issues here; Adapt and also others such as
notifications.
APA & Publishing Joint Meeting
[43]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/
TPAC_2022#APA_.26_Publishing_Joint_Meeting
[43] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2022#APA_.26_Publishing_Joint_Meeting
janina: Uncomon to have an 8am meeting, but we wish to include
those around the globe.
janina: Lots of agenda to cover here (check the wiki).
Real-Time Communications & APA Joint Meeting
[44]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/
TPAC_2022#Real-Time_Communications_.26_APA_Joint_Meeting
[44] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2022#Real-Time_Communications_.26_APA_Joint_Meeting
janina: We want to ensure that this continues to be an
accessible environemnt. We are listening to find out what
they're working on. We may raise some concerns if any arise.
They don't have any specific issues.
Lionel: How does this overlap with virtual meetings?
janina: They're one and the same.
CSS & APA Joint Meeting
[45]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/
TPAC_2022#CSS_.26_APA_Joint_Meeting
[45] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2022#CSS_.26_APA_Joint_Meeting
janina: Our standing meeting with CSS. Lots to cover!
Lionel: Do we have that we're seeking a representative?
janina: Yes
APA & Verifiable Credentials Joint Meeting
[46]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/
TPAC_2022#APA_.26_Verifiable_Credentials_Joint_Meeting
[46] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2022#APA_.26_Verifiable_Credentials_Joint_Meeting
janina: We're seeing a lot of opportunities here, with tech
that's been in devleopment for a decade, and is now making it
to production.
janina: We want to introduce our thinking and test the
temperature. We want to move slowly, but see lots of
opportunity for building on their work.
Lionel: Our interest is in privacy-preserving profiles. VC's
work has been designed to preserve privacy; we're very excited
by this!
Timed-Text & APA Joint Meeting
[47]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/
TPAC_2022#Timed-Text_.26_APA_Joint_Meeting
[47] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2022#Timed-Text_.26_APA_Joint_Meeting
janina: We've just had this accepted; they see the need for us
to work with them on getting this published.
Spoken Presentation (APA Task Force)
[48]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/
TPAC_2022#Spoken_Presentation_.28APA_Task_Force.29
[48] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2022#Spoken_Presentation_.28APA_Task_Force.29
janina: SSML and EML, as discussed.
janina: Note: "Spoken Presentation" is the official name for
the TF; "Pronunciation" is how we refer to it informally.
ARIA & APA Joint Meeting
[49]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/
TPAC_2022#ARIA_.26_APA_Joint_Meeting_2
[49] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2022#ARIA_.26_APA_Joint_Meeting_2
janina: This is Adapt-focused. We have a couple of issues
arising from Adapt, and ARIA has an issue for which Adapt may
be a solution (decorative images). Check the wiki for agenda.
Unscheduled meetings
janina: As above, we want to talk with i18n and Technical
Advisory Group (TAG) [important when advancing normative
specificaitons, such as the Adapt Candidate Recommendation's
eventual goal].
Task Force & Deliverables Updates
janina: We have a few documents awaiting publication from TFs.
janina: APA has given the TFs standing authority to update
working drafts (WDs), so RQTF's resolution is sufficient to
proceed with publication.
janina: Note that we would absolutely need management and APA
approval on First Public Working Drafts (FPWD), Candidate
Recommendation (CR) and above. But we allow our Task Forces
(TFs) to publish updated Working Drafts (WDs) on their own.
TPAC22 [50]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2022
[50] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2022
Other Business
be done
janina: Welcome again to Harry; well done everyone. We will
meet next week as normal, and at TPAC as above, but no APA call
the week after TPAC.
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Zoom teleconference info is available at this non-public page:
https://www.w3.org/2017/08/telecon-info_apa
Minutes from our last teleconference are available at:
https://www.w3.org/2022/08/24-apa-minutes.html
What: APA Weekly Teleconference
When: Wednesday 31 August
10:00 AM Boston -- U.S. Eastern Time (EDT: UTC -4:00)
Corresponding times in other time zones are:
http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=APA+Teleconference&iso=20220831T10&p1=43&ah=1
Where: Zoom Teleconference Service
https://www.w3.org/2017/08/telecon-info_apa
IRC: irc.w3.org Channel: #apa
Additional logistics below
** Preliminary Agenda for APA WG Telecon Wednesday 31 August 2022
Chair: Janina
agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
agenda+ New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22
agenda+ A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
agenda+ new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
agenda+ Dangling Spec Review Cleanup: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned
agenda+ TPAC22 https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2022
agenda+ Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open
agenda+ Task Force & Deliverables Updates
agenda+ Other Business
agenda+ be done
Resource: APA & Task Force Teleconference Minutes
APA: https://www.w3.org/2022/08/24-apa-minutes.html
RQTF: http://www.w3.org/2022/08/24-rqtf-minutes.html
COGA TF: https://www.w3.org/2022/08/25-coga-minutes.html
Adapt: https://www.w3.org/2022/08/29-adapt-minutes
Pronunciation: https://www.w3.org/2022/08/10-pronunciation-minutes.html
Maturity Model: https://www.w3.org/2022/08/17-maturity-minutes.html
Additional resources for APA at:
https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Key_Resources_and_Links
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Accessibility Consultant https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka
The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa
Linux Foundation Fellow
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