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Re: APA and COGA

From: Katie Haritos-Shea <ryladog@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2021 14:33:00 -0500
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To: John Foliot <john@foliot.ca>
Cc: Lisa Seeman <lisa1seeman@gmail.com>, W3C WAI Accessible Platform Architectures <public-apa@w3.org>
I agree with Lisa and do not see why the COGA Task Force positioning should
change either.

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On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 2:25 PM John Foliot <john@foliot.ca> wrote:

> Hi Lisa,
>
> While I certainly do believe that having voices representing the
> communities of users with cognitive disabilities being represented during
> APA discussions is important, that in no way also requires that the COGA
> Task Force be a joint TF between the *actual* parent Working Group (AG) and
> APA. In fact, I cannot think of another activity under the WAI umbrella
> that operates as such (perhaps Accessible CSS?).
>
> So, if you truly believe that the perspective of COGA needs to be at APA,
> please come and join those calls - the more the merrier. But a formal
> "joint task-force"? I'm struggling to see the value add there.
>
> JF
>
> On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 1:42 PM Lisa Seeman <lisa1seeman@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi John,
>> I have no problem with the other task forces joining APA. Maybe they
>> should.
>> The plan was for us to explore and discuss this after our publication. I
>> would like to keep to that plan. If the time table is to long, we should be
>> told what the time table is etc.
>> COGA and APA need to integrate our work better.
>> For COGA, we sometimes spin off ideas - such as personalization. APA
>> reviews and work also needs to incorporate the COGA perspective. How this
>> is done and how we work together is something we should explore in detail
>> and with consideration for  the good of accessibility.
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 7:12 PM John Foliot <john@foliot.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Lisa,
>>>
>>> COGA is (was?) a *joint* task force between APA and AG Working Groups,
>>> and I neither see nor hear a proposal to eliminate COGA, only to no longer
>>> make it a joint TF with APA.
>>>
>>> From my perspective, APA and AG WG will continue to coordinate and work
>>> together, and so I am wondering if you can articulate specific reasons for
>>> keeping the joint relationship active, versus allowing COGA to remain a TF
>>> of AG WG.
>>>
>>> I note that there are other Task Forces under AG WG that do not have a
>>> joint partnership structure (Low Vision, "mobile"/touch interfaces, XR) and
>>> so I'd like to understand why you feel COGA should be treated differently
>>> than those other Task Forces? What advantages are gained by remaining a
>>> joint Task Force?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> JF
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 10:58 AM Lisa Seeman <lisa1seeman@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I strongly feel that APA and COGA must have a formal relationship and
>>>> an improved process of working together that means ApA's work will
>>>> includ COGA concerns.
>>>> I object to a charter that does not include this and removes coga as a
>>>> task force.
>>>>
>>>> As you know we have an important publication this month. It was on
>>>> COGAs time table (as agreed) as the first item after our publication to
>>>> work with the co-chairs to improve this process.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> All the best
>>>>
>>>> Lisa Seeman
>>>>
>>>
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