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Re: AOM with APA at TPAC?

From: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2019 16:28:07 -0400
To: James Nurthen <james@nurthen.com>
Cc: lw@tetralogical.com, Joshue O Connor <joconnor@w3.org>, W3C WAI Accessible Platform Architectures <public-apa@w3.org>, W3C WAI ARIA <public-aria@w3.org>
Message-ID: <20190909202807.GD29646@rednote.net>
Hi, James:

I've taken the liberty of adding both the APA and the ARIA lists in
reply to this question ...

Everyone at TPAC, or who would like to get on the phone with us is
absolutely welcome at each and every meeting we've scheduled. I think we
have several topics this year of wide interest, and I know for a fact we
need everyone's accessibility knowledge and experience in the
conversations. We're asking questions about new and emerging technology,
where very few of us, if any have experience. So, please do
participate!

The best way to track what APA TPAC agendum is cheduled when is on our
scheduling page here:

https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2019


In this specific instance, AOM is set for Thursday at 11:00. It's marked
"unconfirmed" only because neither Alice nor James have expressly said
they would be able to participate. I do believe Alice has indicated
interest in the topic.


Looking forward to greeting you in person in Fukuoka,

Janina

James Nurthen writes:
> Janina,
> If a meeting is happening at TPAC around this I'd love to be involved. Can
> you please let me know if such a meeting is happening and if I may attend.
> Thanks,
> James
> 
> On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 5:37 AM Joshue O Connor <joconnor@w3.org> wrote:
> 
> > Hello Alice and all,
> >
> > On 09/09/2019 00:50, Alice Boxhall wrote:
> >
> > > [...]
> > > Everything Léonie said!
> > Great, thanks for the feedback both. It's very useful.
> > >
> > > My main concern would be that the existing ARIA vocabulary/existing AT
> > > interaction patterns would be too limiting for UX designed for an
> > immersive
> > > environment (orthogonal to the AOM API design), which Janina touches on
> > > below.
> > Right, and mine - so it would be great if we could get to an
> > understanding of what a baseline semantic architecture for XR would look
> > like, and then we can work out what are the annotations a la ARIA or
> > something new - that does provide the vocabulary for the areas we have
> > identified like Navigation, Object and Interaction semantics.
> > >
> > >> 2.) Do we need bi-directionality for good XR support? Semantics can be
> > >>> consumed by user agents but may be modified in an imersive environment
> > >>> and change as interactions are happening. Like React is data driven, XR
> > >>> semantics may be interaction or results driven.
> > >>>
> > >>> 3.) What would be the ideal architecture to support XR accessibility?
> > We
> > >>> seem to be currently aiming at patching XR with current and even legacy
> > >>> AT, so that architecture may be temporary, or move away from browser
> > and
> > >>> API interactions towards AT being embedded in an immersive environment.
> > >>> What does "good" look like in this situation?
> > > These are really interesting and important questions - I don't know
> > enough
> > > about XR to start answering them.
> >
> >
> > This is really why meeting and discussing is going to be (a lot of fun)
> > and very helpful.
> >
> > >
> > >> 4) Are Object Oriented approaches to accessible XR preferable to
> > >>> declarative or author applied semantics?
> > >>> Please confirm whether 11:00 Thursday works.
> > > It's open for me, although if the topic is primarily going to be XR I'm
> > > unclear why this would be a separate session from the proposed plenary
> > > session <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TPAC/2019/SessionIdeas#XR_Accessibility
> > >
> > > on Wednesday.
> >
> >
> > Well that is a rather general session/conversation around how to provide
> > better engagement on XR with the current a11y community, as well as let
> > people know of the work we are all doing in this space. For example
> > Léonie and Doms upcoming workshop, and our current XAUR drafts as well
> > as how people can engage with this work who may not be monitoring it so
> > closely. So I think this will be more general whereas the AOM topic is
> > quite specific and your expertise is needed.
> >
> > Thanks, and I look forward to working with you.
> >
> > Josh
> >
> > --
> > Emerging Web Technology Specialist/Accessibility (WAI/W3C)
> >
> >
> >

-- 

Janina Sajka

Linux Foundation Fellow
Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:	http://a11y.org

The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures	http://www.w3.org/wai/apa
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