- From: Joshue O Connor <joconnor@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2019 16:48:07 +0100
- To: Michael Cooper <cooper@w3.org>, "White, Jason J" <jjwhite@ets.org>, RQTF <public-rqtf@w3.org>
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On 18/06/2019 15:24, Michael Cooper wrote: > On 18/06/2019 5:31 a.m., Joshue O Connor wrote: >> One of the questions I've got is how can we insure that thing meta >> data - when needed, translates in a way that accessibility APIs can >> consume? Do we need abstractions between RDF/JSON-LD and an >> accessibility API? Will it all be just parsed as text? Does this data >> need a semantics to present to a user (which I think will be the case)? > [...] Rich enough "thing descriptions" so a user agent can construct > an accessible experience without a priori knowledge, self-describing > metadata ontologies that allow automated processing without reference > to restricted vocabularies... Right, you've articulated a hunch I had there nicely. It seems that if we try not to fit the new into the old, in terms of rich thing descriptions and support for legacy networks - then I agree that we should face that brave new world and see if it can lift all boats. If AT disappears, and we just have UIs that support modality x, then that would be wonderful. One thing about restricted vocabularies, is that it can focus attention on what is semantically important. Knowledge (or lack of) has been the bread and butter of most accessibility peoples careers! So if we feel the ground is laid for really building on semantically aware communities in either WoT, or XR or whatever, then we do have so exciting opportunities. I am by nature a tech sceptic, as well as inherently cautious when it comes to potentially leaky abstractions. So for that kind of paradigm to work, there needs to be people on the ground who can support and guide the new infrastructure so it really will be fit for purpose. > Some of those things have been dreams of the metadata community for a > long time, but the present state of technology and the novel use cases > of web of things might mean those things are realistic now, and a > potentially important part of the accessibility puzzle. +1. Sounds good - but before we leave the world of accessibility APIs ;-) Seriously, I don't think we would move away from that model overnight, and there is need for AT vendor engagement when it comes to support for any new metadata schema etc. For the short term, if its going on the web, there will be a DOM and an Accessibility API. As an aside, I'm seeing that there are also interesting suggestions in the accessibility API space, and new thinking such as in the Accessibility Object Model, for example using non-reflective (or getters and setters) accessibility properties and updating Web Components like that, along with doing this dynamically as needed for state changes etc via callbacks. Yes, this kind of thing can be done by an accessibility aware React developer but they are few and far between. So AOM is also talking about interesting things like setting default accessibility properties for components, and being able to support custom based semantics, and use of scripting to update elements and their various properties without globally assigning IDs. (if I am reading the spec correctly?) [1] This kind of thinking is very interesting to me and I see wide ranging applications in different domains. But finally, I have to leave the last word to Michael, as his point about novel use cases, and the potential for just 'rich' thing descriptions and their potential beyond accessibility APIs, is excellent. Josh [1] https://wicg.github.io/aom/explainer.html#introduction [2] <https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/common-dom-interfaces.html#reflect> https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/common-dom-interfaces.html#reflect > > Michael > > -- Emerging Web Technology Specialist/A11y (WAI/W3C)
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