- From: John Foliot <john.foliot@deque.com>
- Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 11:47:56 -0600
- To: "Gottfried Zimmermann (Lists)" <zimmermann@accesstechnologiesgroup.com>
- Cc: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>, W3C WAI Accessible Platform Architectures <public-apa@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAKdCpxx0cNc5LwiP4tsurhUhXOovuVcqtFpdG2N6M4PCMKiFuQ@mail.gmail.com>
Minutes can be found at: https://www.w3.org/2018/02/14-apa-minutes.html. or
below as text:
DRAFT -Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference14 Feb
2018Attendees
Presentjanina, JF, Joanmarie_Diggs, IanPouncey, Becka11yRegretsleonie,
gottfriedChairjaninaScribeJF
Contents
- Topics <https://www.w3.org/2018/02/14-apa-minutes.html#agenda>
1. preview agenda with items from two minutes
<https://www.w3.org/2018/02/14-apa-minutes.html#item01>
2. Open CfC re COGA
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa-admin/2018Feb/0002.html
<https://www.w3.org/2018/02/14-apa-minutes.html#item02>
3. CSS update <https://www.w3.org/2018/02/14-apa-minutes.html#item03>
4. Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/products/8
<https://www.w3.org/2018/02/14-apa-minutes.html#item04>
5. new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
<https://www.w3.org/2018/02/14-apa-minutes.html#item05>
6. Other Business
<https://www.w3.org/2018/02/14-apa-minutes.html#item06>
7. be done <https://www.w3.org/2018/02/14-apa-minutes.html#item07>
- Summary of Action Items
<https://www.w3.org/2018/02/14-apa-minutes.html#ActionSummary>
- Summary of Resolutions
<https://www.w3.org/2018/02/14-apa-minutes.html#ResolutionSummary>
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<scribe> scribe: JF
preview agenda with items from two minutes
JS: Standard agenda for today, Michael C is unable to join us this week
... a few items to address, but suspect we will end early
JF: what about the timed-text folks?
JS: yes, we need to look at that
... meeting is set for the 28th here, with TTML folks. Janina will invite
the VTT folks too.
... was hoping to discuss this internally before we sit with those groups
however. Will make a specific agenda item for next week
zakin, next item
Open CfC re COGA
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa-admin/2018Feb/0002.html
JS: there is a CfC ongoing. Want to note the fact, and ask if there are any
questions.
This is a joint TF between APA and AG/COGA TF
JS: they are seeking permission for rolling updates to their documentation
... there appears a strong commitment to get this document finished soon -
benefits many groups.
... this document will ultimately become a W3C Note
... this will be a gap analysis document, along with a roadmap on how to
possibley close the gap
COGA have a tonne of research materials (etc.) that needs to be summerised
The Gap Analysis will be helpful when asking AG and other WGs for specific
requirements.
Identify what is needed, and identify what is missing
JS: They hope to have this completed by next TPAC
JF: this sounds like a "COGA MAUR"...
JS: yes, and there is a working draft already published
[JF and JS chat, both agree to streamline process here]
CSS update
IP: Ian has provided Janina with a draft invite to recruit members to the
CSS/a11y TF
JS: need to find that and review
IP: also sent to the existing list the comments and concerns we had around
preventing movement. Discussed disabling "mouvement", but have not heard
anything more since then.
JS: Can we log that as a decision of the TF? Communicate that we have
reached a consensus that this is a "Good Thing"
IP: not 100% convinced it's not necessary, but support the need to do more
investigation
... noticing a need for 'tutorial' or other educational piece around this
topic
... also closed a few tickets in the queue, but need to reach out to M.
Cooper for some housekeeping issues
... so mostly just looking for ongoing responses, and steady as she goes...
Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/products/8
JS: with Michael not here, this might be difficult this week. Anybody with
any updates?
<Becka11y> Becky’s are still open - dom 4.1 and shadow dom
JB: I have one open... I need to get at it.
JF: I have one open as well
JS: defer to next week
new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
<janina> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Not_Checked
JS: Selectors and CSS Grids?
<Becka11y> https://www.w3.org/TR/selectors-3/ selectors
IP: looked at both last week - no issues or concerns noted for
Selectors
<Becka11y> grid: https://www.w3.org/TR/css-grid-1/
Grid however is still part of our ongoing discussions. What we have now is
a 'note' to authors to be careful about visual order and content order
IP{: given the nature of the technology, that seems to be the best we can
ask for
JS: the other one that Michael has highlighted is Personalization. MC
suggest we don't need to look at this
... No formal APA review at this time
... anticipate being asked for an APA review of WCAG 2.1. Suspect that APA
doesn't have an axe to grind here
JF: this has been developed so closely by a11y experts that a deep-dive
review isn';t likely required
JS: but a review/read by fresh eyes is useful
<Becka11y> Becky will be looking into providing some training and
presentations on WCAG 2.1 so will keep my APA hat on while I do that to
perform an informal review for APA
BG: the other one to be watching is the WebRTC spec, and media queries
level 4
JS: I think they are expecting something there - and Media Queries 5 was
where they wre going to start looking at personalization
... I need to take an action around WebRTC as well
notes so far are around implementation
Other Business
JS: I have none. Anyone else?
be done
JS: Meeting ajourned.
trackbot, end meeting
Summary of Action ItemsSummary of Resolutions[End of minutes]
On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 10:51 AM, Gottfried Zimmermann (Lists) <
zimmermann@accesstechnologiesgroup.com> wrote:
> Regrets for today.
>
> Have a good meeting,
> Gottfried
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Janina Sajka [mailto:janina@rednote.net]
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 13. Februar 2018 18:31
> An: W3C WAI Accessible Platform Architectures <public-apa@w3.org>
> Betreff: Agenda: APA WEEKLY Teleconference; Wednesday 14 February at
> 17:00Z;
>
> What: APA Weekly Teleconference
> When: Wednesday 14 February
> 9:00 AM San Francisco -- U.S. Pacific Time (PST: UTC
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> 11:00 AM Austin -- U.S. Central Time (CST: UTC
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> 12:00 PM Boston -- U.S. Eastern Time (EST: UTC
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> 5:00 PM London -- British Time (BST: UTC
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> 6:00 PM Vienna -- Central European Time (CET: UTC
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> 7:00 PM Tel Aviv -- Israel Time (IDT: UTC
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> Where: Webex Teleconference Code: 647 449 723
> https://www.w3.org/2017/08/telecon-info_apa
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> ** Preliminary Agenda for APA WG Telecon Wednesday 14 February 2018
>
> Meeting: APA WG telecon
> Chair: Janina
> agenda: this
> agenda+ preview agenda with items from two minutes
> agenda+ Open CfC re COGA
> agenda+http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa-admin/2018Feb/0002
> agenda+.html Actions Checkin (Specs)
> agenda+https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/products/8
> agenda+ new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
> agenda+ Other Business
> agenda+ be done
>
> Resource: APA Teleconference Minutes
> APA Telecon: http://www.w3.org/2018/02/07-apa-minutes.html
> COGA TF: https://www.w3.org/2018/02/08-coga-minutes.html
> RQTF: http://www.w3.org/2018/01/31-rqtf-minutes.html
>
> Resource: APA's Accessibility Checklist
> Current: http://w3c.github.io/pfwg/wtag/checklist.html
> TPAC: http://www.w3.org/2017/11/06-apa-minutes.html#item04
>
> Resource: Push/Notifications
> Minutes: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2017Oct/0025.html
> Issue: https://github.com/whatwg/notifications/issues/107
> Issue: https://github.com/w3c/push-api/issues/259
>
> Resource: Research Questions Task Force (RQTF)
> Home Page: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/research-questions/
> Work Statement:
> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/research-questions/work-statement
>
> Resource: CSS Accessibility Task Force
> Work Statement:
> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/css-a11y/work-statement
> Draft Issues: https://github.com/w3c/aria/wiki/CSS-AAM-Potential-
> Features
> TPAC2016 Mtg: https://www.w3.org/2016/09/20-css-minutes
>
> Resource: COGA Task Force
> Timeline: https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Main_Page
>
> Resource: ARIA Personalization Task Force:
> https://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/task-forces/personalization/work-statement
>
> Resource: Key APA Pages For Reference
> Home Page: http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/
> Charter: http://www.w3.org/2015/10/apa-charter.html
> Member List: https://www.w3.org/2004/01/pp-impl/83907/status
> Decision Policy: http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/decision-policy
> Tracker (Issues and Actions): http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track Spec Review
> History: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review
> CG Review Matrix:
> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/wiki/Spec_Review/Community_Groups
>
> Resource: Webex Teleconference Logistics
> Teleconference Data: https://www.w3.org/2017/08/telecon-info_apa
> Webex Best Practices:
> https://www.w3.org/2006/tools/wiki/WebExBestPractices
>
> *IRC Logistics
> IRC: server: irc.w3.org, channel: #APA
>
> IMPORTANT: Upon joining IRC, please identify yourself:
> present+ [your_name]
> Ex: present+ Janina_Sajka
>
> * Some helpful Scribing and Participation Tips
> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/wiki/Teleconference_cheat_sheet
>
> For more on the IRC setup and the robots we use for agenda and speaker
> queuing and for posting the log to the web, see:
>
> - For RRSAgent, that captures and posts the log with special attention
> to action items:
> http://www.w3.org/2002/03/RRSAgent
>
> - For Zakim, the IRC interface to the bridge manager, that will maintain
> speaker and agenda queues:
> http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot
>
> - For a Web gateway to IRC you can use if your network administrators
> forbid IRC, see:
> http://www.w3.org/2001/01/cgi-irc
>
> - For more on W3C use of IRC see:
> http://www.w3.org/Project/IRC/
>
> --
>
> Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200
> sip:janina@asterisk.rednote.net
> Email: janina@rednote.net
>
> Linux Foundation Fellow
> Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org
>
> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
> Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa
>
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John Foliot
Principal Accessibility Strategist
Deque Systems Inc.
john.foliot@deque.com
Advancing the mission of digital accessibility and inclusion
Received on Wednesday, 14 February 2018 17:48:23 UTC