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Re: [css-flexbox] Transition Request, CSS Flexible Box Layout Level 1 to CR (updated)

From: White, Jason J <jjwhite@ets.org>
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 22:04:42 +0000
To: fantasai <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net>
CC: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>, w3c-css-wg <w3c-css-wg@w3.org>, Philippe Le Hégaret <plh@w3.org>, Ralph Swick <swick@w3.org>, W3C Comm Team <w3t-comm@w3.org>, "chairs@w3.org" <chairs@w3.org>, Michael Cooper <cooper@w3.org>, Richard Schwerdtfeger <schwer@us.ibm.com>, Judy Brewer <jbrewer@w3.org>, "W3C WAI Accessible Platform Architectures" <public-apa@w3.org>
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> On Jan 20, 2016, at 16:00, fantasai <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net> wrote:
>
> My recollection of the meeting in Sapporo on this issue was twofold:
>
>  1. APA had more discussion to do on this topic, as there wasn't
>     consensus in the room even among the APA folks. (You can see
>     cyns and MCK expressing opposing points of view in the minutes.)
>

This is also my recollection of the meeting. Further, the approach taken by Mozilla (as I recall, the navigation sequence follows the visual layout from left to right, top to bottom) was emphatically not supported by some of the APA participants at the meeting. Experimentation also uncovered interesting variations in the reading order defaults of screen readers, e.g., with VoiceOver under OS X following on-screen presentation, presumably as determined by bounding boxes of elements, rather than the DOM tree order.

>  2. The CSSWG indeed needs to draw up some "best practices" documentation,
>     and took this as an action item. This was assigned to my to-do list;
>     thank you for reminding me about it. =) I'll start working on this
>     next week. (Since I've volunteered to present on this topic at the

It’s possible that author guidance could suffice to address the issues raised here. The controversial point is whether there should be any change in the affected CSS specifications.


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