- From: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>
- Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 08:34:39 -0500
- To: fantasai <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net>
- Cc: W3C WAI Accessible Platform Architectures <public-apa@w3.org>
Hi, Fantasai: A quick update with cc to the APA list ... * We reviewed our various views re Flexbox during the APA call on * 10 February. This is minuted at: http://www.w3.org/2016/02/10-apa-minutes.html#item04 * Next Wednesday 24 February we will make Flexbox our * primary agendum. If you'd like to join our call, you'd * be most welcome. I'll forward you the agenda early next * week just in case. So, if there's a draft you can share before our call next Wednesday, that would be most timely. Best, Janina fantasai writes: > On 01/20/2016 08:57 AM, Janina Sajka wrote: > >Dear Fantasai, Colleagues: > > > >As promissed in my email below, I am hereby forwarding the APA (formerly > >PF) concern with progressing the CSS Flexbox spec through to W3C TR. We > >believe there is a path to resolution, and we would hope to work with > >CSS to achieve that resolution before the end of your CR on this > >specification. > > > >APA supports the concerns expressed by IBM in an email at: > >http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2016Jan/0025.html > > > > > >I'm certain the concerns expressed in this email will be quite familiar. > >We discussed them together most recently during our joint meeting at > >TPAC 2015 in Sapporo: > > > >http://www.w3.org/2015/10/30-apa-minutes.html > > > >As the above minutes indicate, APA is reasonably satisfied that the > >approach prototyped by Mozilla will satisfy our concerns. You'll recall > >our Facebook participants mocked up a test for that during TPAC, and the > >results were very encouraging. > > > >What is missing is the next steps agreed in Sapporo--and frankly, also > >agreed during TPAC 2014 in Santa Cruz. We need the "best practices" > >documentation to be written, tested, and appropriately incorporated in > >W3C documents before this most useful and important, yet accessibility > >challenging CSS spec moves beyond CR. > > > >Please suggest how we can move forward on this. My reading of the above > >referenced minutes suggests CSS is understood to take the lead on this. > > Hi Janina, > My recollection of the meeting in Sapporo on this issue was twofold: > > 1. APA had more discussion to do on this topic, as there wasn't > consensus in the room even among the APA folks. (You can see > cyns and MCK expressing opposing points of view in the minutes.) > > 2. The CSSWG indeed needs to draw up some "best practices" documentation, > and took this as an action item. This was assigned to my to-do list; > thank you for reminding me about it. =) I'll start working on this > next week. (Since I've volunteered to present on this topic at the > CSSWG meeting in Syndey two weeks from now, you should have at the > very least a solid outline pretty soon.) > > I will point out that this revision of Flexbox has more guidance on a11y > than the previous, and we hope this will improve the chances of good > tooling design. > > Thanks~ > > ~fantasai -- Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 sip:janina@asterisk.rednote.net Email: janina@rednote.net Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa
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