- From: Lionel Wolberger <lionel@userway.org>
- Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 17:11:46 +0300
- To: John Foliot <john@foliot.ca>
- Cc: "Janina Sajka (janina@rednote.net)" <janina@rednote.net>, Accessible Platform Architectures Administration <public-apa-admin@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAHOHNHeA4i60ejWW8Bh+pRkUYT05DP61eP=R61A=KUy=GCd3QA@mail.gmail.com>
+1 Lionel Wolberger COO, UserWay Inc. lionel@userway.org UserWay.org <http://userway.org/> <https://userway.org>[image: text] On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 4:36 PM John Foliot <john@foliot.ca> wrote: > +1 > > JF > > On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 9:19 AM Janina Sajka (janina@rednote.net) < > janina@rednote.net> wrote: > >> +1 >> >> Janina >> >> Janina Sajka writes: >> > Colleagues: >> > >> > This is a Call for Consensus (CfC) to the Accessible Platform >> > Architectures (APA) Working Group testing whether we have group >> > consensus on comments and suggested edits on the MediaStreamTrack >> > Content Hints draft specification, at >> > https://www.w3.org/TR/mst-content-hint/. >> > >> > >> > <beginning of suggested comment> >> > >> > *TITLE * >> > >> > APA comments on the MediaStreamTrack Content Hints draft specification, >> at >> > https://www.w3.org/TR/mst-content-hint/. >> > >> > *OVERVIEW * >> > >> > *Content hint attributes defined in this specification will benefit >> > consumers who rely on assistive technology (AT) and personalization. >> *The >> > specification notes its focus on end-users' experience: "Adding a media >> > -content hint provides a way for a web application to help track >> consumers >> > make more informed decision[s]...." Content authors can author >> contentHint >> > < >> https://t.sidekickopen90.com/s3t/c/5/f18dQhb0S7kF8cFFTBW4T_qld2zGCwVN8Jbw_8QsRtKVn1vXj1p1kknW16gGBN41Jd6G101?te=W3R5hFj4cm2zwW4mKLS-4mbkbhW49Ldrl308ybGW4fdgvc41YylgW4fdgXQ41YszVW3H90C_3_SMDQW3zh2Fq3K1LvHW49HR8w1Gy-qYW4fGC1K3R0JW00&si=8000000004174048&pi=58151f60-5af3-4f61-ebc9-364d322a7e5a >> > >> > with the experience of AT users in mind, or UAs acting on behalf of >> > users. This specification's introduction would be a good place to >> > clarify this as a further benefit of content hints. Content authors may >> > author content hints with AT in mind. In addition, we encourage User >> Agents >> > to make this hint available to downstream consumers via API, >> > >> > *The specification make no mention of hints regarding support files >> *(captions, >> > audio descriptions) that often accompany media content, either linked >> to it >> > in HTML externally (using the <track> element) or furnished 'in-band', >> > e.g., contained within the .MP4 wrapper (HasCaptions: T/F, >> > HasAudioDescription: T/F). If either return True, THEN they need to be >> > exposed in the UI: essentially as 'active' buttons in the Controls. Such >> > support files can be critical to the accessibility of a media track, as >> for >> > example when an American Sign Language video is supplied seperately, but >> > linked. Did the WG consider whether hints could also usefully convey >> > whether the media content has such supporting files? >> > >> > Regarding Section 4: *The specification's hints could address more >> directly >> > some common **audio and video formats that are often encountered with >> > content that has been made accessible. *For clarity, such formats could >> > propose hints such as these (these are examples for clarity only, we >> leave >> > you to define such hints): >> > >> > *For Audio, an additional hint to indicate the presence of >> > audio-description *(or some similar label as you find appropriate). >> > Audio-description is audio that resembles speech-recognition, but does >> not >> > contain data for the purpose of speech recognition by a machine. >> > Audio-description is audio that resembles "speech" but it will likely >> not >> > be appropriate to apply noise suppression or boost intelligibility of >> the >> > incoming signal. >> > >> > In the language of the specification (4.1) , "A track with content >> > hint "audio-description" >> > should be treated as if it contains audio data, without background >> noise, >> > describing in words the activity in the video." >> > >> > >> > *For Video, an additional hint to indicate the presence of transcription >> > embedded in the video*, e.g., motion-with-transcription (or some similar >> > label as you find appropriate). motion-with-transcription would refer >> to a >> > motion video that has, embedded, transcription data, either a >> > picture-in-picture showing a sign language interpreter, or text captions >> > embedded in the video. >> > >> > In the language of the specification (4.2): A content hint of >> > motion-with-transcription should be treated such that one region of the >> > video frame has details that are extra important, and in that region >> that >> > significant sharp edges and areas of consistent color can occur >> frequently >> > (the area with sign language interpretation, or the area with onscreen >> > captioned text). This screen region would optimize for detail in the >> > resulting individual frames rather than smooth playback. Artefacts from >> > quantization or downscaling should be avoided. >> > >> > >> > *Regarding section 5, the degradation preference does not address >> regions.* >> > Picture regions may be very significant for accessibility. Consider a >> video >> > with sign language interpretation embedded (e.g., in the upper right >> > corner), or a video with captions "burned-in" or embedded (e.g., in the >> > bottom of the picture area). (While APA does not advocate for such >> embedded >> > captions, they are common particularly on social media where the default >> > user behavior is audio "off." These regions would benefit from different >> > encoding decisions than the rest of the frame. Regions may be encoded >> and >> > decoded quite differently: for example in AVC, "it is also possible to >> > create truly lossless-coded regions within lossy-coded pictures." *We >> would >> > find it useful and supportive of accessible content to make this >> > information available as an RTCDegradationPreference.* >> > >> > Lastly, how are these hints communicated? We note that MP4 files can >> > contain metadata as defined by the format standard, and in addition, can >> > contain Extensible Metadata Platform (XMP) metadata. (source:: >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-4_Part_14). >> > >> > *REQUESTS* >> > >> > Correct these two typos: >> > >> > - Abstract: change "make more informed decision" to either "make a >> more >> > informed decision" or "make more informed decisions" >> > - Section 2. change "they appear" to "it appears" >> > >> > Add to the introduction that content hint attributes defined in this >> > specification will benefit consumers who rely on assistive technology >> (AT) >> > and personalization. >> > >> > The WG to ensure that the specification covers use cases with support >> > files, and that hints can be provided for those files. >> > >> > In section 4, ensure that hints support the use-cases mentioned above. >> > >> > In section 5.2 ensure that the specification supports regions >> particularly >> > when such regions are important for accessibility. >> > >> > <end suggested comment> >> > >> > ***Action to Take*** >> > >> > This CfC is now open for objection, comment, as well as statements of >> > support via email. Silence will be interpreted as support, though >> > messages of support are certainly welcome. >> > >> > If you object to this proposed action, or have comments concerning this >> > proposal, please respond by replying on list to this message no later >> > than 23:59 (Midnight) Boston Time, Wednesday 14 July. >> > >> > NOTE: This Call for Consensus is being conducted in accordance with the >> > APA Decision Policy published at: >> > >> > http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/decision-policy >> > >> > We thank Lionel Wolberger for reviewing this specification on our behalf >> > and for helping lead our teleconference discussions on this >> > specification. >> > >> > Janina and Becky >> > >> > -- >> > >> > Janina Sajka >> > >> > Linux Foundation Fellow >> > Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org >> > >> > The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) >> > Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa >> > >> >> -- >> >> Janina Sajka >> https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka >> >> Linux Foundation Fellow >> Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org >> >> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) >> Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa >> >> >> > > -- > *John Foliot* | Senior Industry Specialist, Digital Accessibility > > "I made this so long because I did not have time to make it shorter." - > Pascal "links go places, buttons do things" >
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