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Re: 48-Hour Call for Consensus (CfC): Support for Audiobook

From: Avneesh Singh <avneesh.sg@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 11:50:49 +0530
Message-ID: <951E0B4941154FA88B3D81D9687D6E96@DESKTOPG923ARA>
To: "Marisa DeMeglio" <marisa.demeglio@gmail.com>, "White, Jason J" <jjwhite@ets.org>
Cc: "Reid, Wendy" <wendy.reid@rakuten.com>, "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>, "Accessible Platform Architectures Administration" <public-apa-admin@w3.org>, "Matt-Garrish" <matt.garrish@gmail.com>, "Ivan Herman" <ivan@w3.org>, "Garth Conboy" <garth@google.com>

It is worth mentioning that in addition to pointing towards sync media, the audio books specifications also allows pointing to text equivalent in HTML files. Copying the relevant section from the latest draft of audio books specs. So, we provide two ways for fulfilling accessibility requirements, sync media as well as text in HTML.

Alternatively, a content creator can provide the text equivalent as HTML [[html]] resources in the resources.
                
                    {
                        "@context" : ["https://schema.org", "https://www.w3.org/ns/pub-context"],
                        "type"         : "Audiobook",
                        "url"      : "https://publisher.example.org/janeeyre",
                        "name"     : "Jane Eyre",
                        "readingOrder" : {
                            "type"    : "LinkedResource",
                            "url"   : "audio/part001.wav#0",
                            "encodingFormat" : "audio/vnd-wav",
                            "name"  : "Chapter 1",
                            "duration" : "457.931",
                            "alternate" : "text/part001-1.html"
                        },

With regards
Avneesh
From: Marisa DeMeglio 
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 5:34
To: White, Jason J 
Cc: Reid, Wendy ; Avneesh Singh ; Janina Sajka ; Accessible Platform Architectures Administration ; Matt-Garrish ; Ivan Herman ; Garth Conboy 
Subject: Re: 48-Hour Call for Consensus (CfC): Support for Audiobook

In looking over the Sync Media section in the Audiobooks spec, I found something I had a question about so I raised an issue [1]; I don’t think it affects the APA review though so didn’t want to bog down this thread.  

As for whether Sync Media can be referenced non-normatively by a rec-track specification, I would defer to Ivan. I hope it can.

Sync media will have a closer-to-final draft posted very soon, using the same URL referenced by Audiobooks.

Marisa

1. https://github.com/w3c/audiobooks/issues/27



  On Oct 10, 2019, at 11:44, White, Jason J <jjwhite@ets.org> wrote:

  Thank you for the editorial corrections and for the revised link.

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Reid, Wendy <wendy.reid@rakuten.com>
  Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 2:25 PM
  To: Avneesh Singh <avneesh.sg@gmail.com>; White, Jason J <jjwhite@ets.org>; Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>; Accessible Platform Architectures Administration <public-apa-admin@w3.org>
  Cc: Matt-Garrish <matt.garrish@gmail.com>; Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>; 'Garth Conboy' <garth@google.com>; Marisa <marisa.demeglio@gmail.com>
  Subject: Re: 48-Hour Call for Consensus (CfC): Support for Audiobook

  Hello APA,

  Thank you for the review, I have amended the errors mentioned and they will be on github in the next few days then published. For an accurate URL to Sync media, you can find it now at https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fw3c.github.io%2Faudiobooks&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7C094a877ac40548b73c2e08d74daf2641%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C637063286984969159&amp;sdata=4iDkGvSPdy%2FaiCju1%2FKNN8Sp7BaJDzhvJanoafAmOS4%3D&amp;reserved=0 .

  Please let me know if there are any other questions or revisions needed!

  Thanks,
  Wendy

  On 2019-10-10, 1:49 AM, "Avneesh Singh" <avneesh.sg@gmail.com> wrote:

     Thanks Jason,

     I am providing my comments inline and copying to the PWG chairs and Editors
     for further discussions. Also copying chair of sync media CG.

     I would like to raise both editorial and substantive matters.

     I note the following two editorial issues in the draft:

     Section 2.1.1: "Resources within the bounds of a [sic] Audiobook" should
     read "an Audiobook".

     Section 2.2.8: the link to "Synchronized Media" gives me a 404 error.

     Avneesh: Request to PWG editors to look into these.

     More substantively, section 2.2.8 is non-normative. However, it "recommends"
     use of the Synchronized Media Note to create an accessible audio book -
     that's the apparently broken link. Moreover, shouldn't this "Synchronized
     Media" note be on a W3C Recommendation track, and cited here as a normative
     reference as the Web standard for achieving the desired synchronization?
     Alternatively, I suppose it could be cited non-normatively as work in
     progress, if this is allowed by W3C publication policy - but it should still
     be on a Rec track if it's effectively a specification.

     Avneesh: Sync media is a CG at this time. This is why we have non-normative
     reference to it. I believe that W3C process allows it.
     There is a possibility that sync media can go to rec track in future, but
     the PWG charter ends in mid of next year, so it cannot happen during this
     short time period.
     Copying Ivan and Marisa for further comments.

     With regards
     Avneesh

     -----Original Message-----
     From: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>
     Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 2:13 PM
     To: Accessible Platform Architectures Administration
     <public-apa-admin@w3.org>
     Subject: 48-Hour Call for Consensus (CfC): Support for Audiobook

     Manifest
     Reply-To:

     Colleagues:

     With apologies for the double posting, the first with an old Subject.

     This is a Call for Consensus (CfC) to the Accessible Platform Architectures
     (APA) Working Group. Digital Publishing is seeking our agreement to publish
     the audiobook profile for publication manifest as a W3C specification and
     believe it is ready to move to Candidate Recommendation status.

     https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2Ftr%2Faudiobooks%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7C094a877ac40548b73c2e08d74daf2641%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C637063286984969159&amp;sdata=tN92KxNUZ%2FkbE%2FS4D%2BJCpFMBBSbXZnfJeu7ctqcQpm0%3D&amp;reserved=0

     I have reviewed this specification as my Action 2209, but our wider group
     consensus is being sought.

     ***ACTION TO TAKE***

     This CfC is now open for objection, comment, as well as statements of
     support via email. Silence will be interpreted as support, though messages
     of support are certainly welcome.

     If you object to this proposed action, or have comments concerning this
     proposal, please respond by replying on list to this message no later than
     23:59 (Midnight) Boston Time, Friday 11 October.

     Janina

     NOTE: This Call for Consensus is being conducted in accordance with the APA
     Decision Policy published at:

     https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FWAI%2FAPA%2Fdecision-policy&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7C094a877ac40548b73c2e08d74daf2641%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C637063286984969159&amp;sdata=MYLneo4CzyLocbW1zMEZl62eRdvQLMXT9U5XiPWf0OU%3D&amp;reserved=0


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