- From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@sidar.org>
- Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 02:00:21 +1000
- To: "public-annotea-dev@w3.org" <public-annotea-dev@w3.org>
- Cc: "Nils Ulltveit-Moe" <nils@u-moe.no>
For your information and enjoyment :) And thanks Nils. Cheers Chaals ------- Forwarded message ------- From: "Nils Ulltveit-Moe" <nils@u-moe.no> To: "Charles McCathieNevile" <charles@sidar.org> Cc: "public-wai-ert@w3.org" <public-wai-ert@w3.org>, "Eric Prud'hommeaux" <eric@w3.org> Subject: Re: Associating EARL with a page Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 05:38:13 +1000 Hi Charles I must say that your discussion about connecting EARL and Annotea intrigued me so much, that I used the weekend for coding a Python/ RDFlib based Annotea server, to learn more about Annotea and RDF. PyNotea is Open Source, and released under the W3C license, and can be found here: http://www.u-moe.org/PyNotea/. I have tested it with AnnoZilla. I will use PyNotea as a playground. Maybe annotations can be useful for manual accessibility checking? Regards, Nils Ulltveit-Moe søn, 10,.04.2005 kl. 17.20 +1000, skrev Charles McCathieNevile: > Hi folks, > > this is clearly a topic we need to think about. It's actually pretty mch > a > general RDF question, not specific to EARL. > > There are a few ways that we can connect EARL to the page it is about. > Most of the obvious ones are, I think, not very good because they involve > relying on the author of a page, and I think in many many use cases where > people will want to find EARL it will be whenthe author hasn't created or > linked to it. > > This is the reason why I would not go very heavily down the path of using > HTML's link with something like rel="meta", nor a URIQA server (an > extended HTTP server that will store and return metadata for any resource > as special methods), although both of those are reasonable options for > authors to use and are not bad as such. > > It's also one reason I don't like the idea of a "well-known-location" > convention, such as storing EARL in an /earl directory or something. I > also dislike that for other reasons and think it is a bad idea. > > For the rest of us third party evaluators, it would be helpful to have > somewhere to put EARL and for the rest of us EARL consumers it would be > nice to have somewhere to look for it. Eric Prud'hommeaux said at the > face > to face that his new annotea server should be able to handle EARL quite > happily - it's a server you configure that receives and serves RDF. There > are various other RDF servers around, too. And the nice thing is that > soon > if you send any of them a query written in SPARQL, you should find out > what they know. > > I actually have an informal action item to follow this up with EricP - > apparently he needs to see an example query to configure his server, so > here is an attempt at one for the current spec that asks for anything > about an assertion where the assertion has 6 basic properties (The > OPTIONAL stuff at the end is the attempt to gather all the other info. It > is the part I am least sure of): > > PREFIX earl: <http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/EARL/nmg-strawman#> > PREFIX dc: <http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/> > > SELECT ?subject, ?test, ?result, ?assertor, ?date, ?mode, ?some, ?more, > ?spare, ?stuff > > WHERE > ( earl:Assertion earl:assertedBy ?assertor ) > ( earl:Assertion earl:result ?result ) > ( earl:Assertion earl:subject ?subject ) > ( earl:Assertion dc:date ?date ) > ( earl:Assertion earl:mode ?mode ) > ( earl:Assertion earl:testCase ?test ) > OPTIONAL { > ( earl:Assertion ?spare ?stuff ) > OPTIONAL > ( ?stuff ?some ?more ) > } > > If I have the query right, this will pretty much tell you anything known > about any Assertion that has some value for each of the 6 basic > properties > I have noted. There are no constraints - I will start a seperate thread > on > querying EARL, because I think this should be noted in the technical spec > and explained in the tutorial one... > > cheers > > Chaals > -- Charles McCathieNevile Fundacion Sidar charles@sidar.org +61 409 134 136 http://www.sidar.org
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