- From: Jacob Jett <jjett2@illinois.edu>
- Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 10:28:03 -0600
- To: Web Annotation <public-annotation@w3.org>
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-1 from me I'm afraid. Motivation is less about the "type" of the annotation than the role that the body is playing in the annotation. When it comes to specialization's of annotation I find it to be a slippery slope of conflating role of body with structure of annotation. My preference is thereby for the verb form, and specifically the gerund because :_anno1 oa:hasMotivation oa:Tagging sounds better than :_anno1 oa:hasMotivation oa:Tag. This was the kind of discussion that led to the creation of motivation in the community group to start with. Regards, Jacob _____________________________________________________ Jacob Jett Research Assistant Center for Informatics Research in Science and Scholarship The Graduate School of Library and Information Science University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign 501 E. Daniel Street, MC-493, Champaign, IL 61820-6211 USA (217) 244-2164 jjett2@illinois.edu On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Denenberg, Ray <rden@loc.gov> wrote: > I can go either way but I do have a preference for the noun form. That's > because I like to think of the "type" of an annotation. It's a bookmark, > or it's a tag, or it's a review. > > I do understand the reason why we don't (that is, no longer) want to talk > about the type of an annotation: because it is too suggestive of rdf:type, > i.e. the RDF class, and the class of an annotation no longer applies (i.e. > we are discouraged from subclassing oa:Annotation). Still, if we can get > past that, I'd prefer the noun form. > > Ray > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Bill Kasdorf [mailto:bkasdorf@apexcovantage.com] > > Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 11:03 AM > > To: Denenberg, Ray; 'James M Snell' > > Cc: 'Web Annotation' > > Subject: RE: Motivations > > > > I support both of these changes, which results in (to be less formally > > grammatical) a clear, simple, active verb (not a noun). In fact I read > your list > > that way at first, because "bookmark" can be both, but when I got to > > "classification" and "description" I realized (as you clearly stated!) > that you > > were proposing nouns. I like this move, but to use verbs. So yes, I'd > drop the > > "to." > > --Bill K > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Denenberg, Ray [mailto:rden@loc.gov] > > Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 10:48 AM > > To: 'James M Snell' > > Cc: 'Web Annotation' > > Subject: RE: Motivations > > > > Yes I nearly suggested the infinitive form instead, but didn't know what > to do > > with the "to" part. I.e. the infinitive form of "bookmarking" is "to > bookmark". > > I suppose you just drop the "to"? > > > > Ray > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: James M Snell [mailto:jasnell@gmail.com] > > > Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 10:41 AM > > > To: Denenberg, Ray > > > Cc: Web Annotation > > > Subject: Re: Motivations > > > > > > Speaking from the sidelines... I would strongly support this. With > > > Activity Streams, it was decided very early on that it would be better > > > to use the infinitive form of activity verbs in nearly all cases. I > > > would take this one step further and suggest "classify" to > > > "classification"; "describe" for "description"; "identify" for > "identifier"; and > > "moderate" for "moderation". > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 7:19 AM, Denenberg, Ray <rden@loc.gov> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > The motivations listed in 3.4 of the model, “bookmarking”, > > > > “classifying”, and so on … > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a cosmetic suggestion: I find these gerund construction a > > > > bit awkward, and would prefer “straight” nouns, as in the following > table. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Current Motivation > > > > > > > > Would Become: > > > > > > > > bookmarking > > > > > > > > bookmark > > > > > > > > classifying > > > > > > > > classification > > > > > > > > commenting > > > > > > > > comment > > > > > > > > describing > > > > > > > > description > > > > > > > > editing > > > > > > > > edit > > > > > > > > highlighting > > > > > > > > highlight > > > > > > > > identifying > > > > > > > > identifier > > > > > > > > moderating > > > > > > > > moderation > > > > > > > > questioning > > > > > > > > question > > > > > > > > replying > > > > > > > > reply > > > > > > > > tagging > > > > > > > > tag > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there support for this change? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ray >
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