Re: K3D TPAC Presentation - Vocabulary Slide for Demo A

Paola,

You are the chair of this CG and I fully accept that you set the scope 
and decide what is in or out for our agenda. I will respect whatever 
boundaries you define for this group.

At the same time, I want to clarify how I arrived at K3D and why I 
believed it was relevant here. The architecture and the spatial KR 
vocabulary are the result of many months of cross‑domain research and 
engineering work, not something improvised for this CG. The sources I 
used are listed in the K3D documentation and in the public NotebookLM 
notebook; they include work on ontologies, spatial reasoning, 
neurosymbolic integration and web standards. My background is in 
electrical engineering and systems architecture, and K3D is my attempt 
to unify those threads into a coherent spatial KR paradigm.

By design, K3D spans multiple W3C concerns – it touches at least ten 
CG/WG topic areas. AI‑KR is only one slice of that; I never expected 
this group to adopt the entire architecture. For this CG I have been 
trying to contribute only the part that looks like a domain ontology for 
spatial knowledge environments (Houses, Rooms, Nodes, Doors, Galaxy, 
Tablet), which I still see as fitting into your “Domain Ontologies / 
ODD” ellipse, with clear links to KR learning and reliability. If you 
judge that even this domain vocabulary is out of scope for AI‑KR, I will 
accept that decision and focus K3D KR work in other venues.

Regarding your latest request: a serious, state‑of‑the‑art review of 
spatial ontology, with publications, open vocabularies, validated use 
cases and a comparative analysis of how K3D fits, is not something I can 
produce responsibly a few hours before TPAC. I’m willing to do that 
work, but it needs to be done carefully and in writing after the event, 
not rushed into a 10‑minute slot.

I also want to address tone. Remarks like “you haven’t got a clue :-)” 
or suggestions that I should enroll in your courses (with tuition fees) 
are hard to reconcile with the collaborative, volunteer nature of a W3C 
Community Group. I’m participating as an independent engineer, 
self‑funding my hardware and AI usage from very limited circumstances. 
My time and resources are also valuable, and I am here in good faith to 
contribute to knowledge representation, not to be dismissed personally.

For today, to stay within your constraints, I suggest we keep things 
very simple: if you are still open to a brief demo, I can use the one 
minute you offered to show a tiny, concrete example of spatial KR – an 
“AI‑KR House” where a few terms live as Nodes in Rooms and we can see 
their relationships in space. If the group finds that useful, we can 
discuss it later; if not, we can move on to other topics.

Thank you for considering this, and regardless of how you decide to 
scope this CG, I appreciate the opportunity to have engaged with AI‑KR 
and will continue this work across the broader W3C ecosystem.

Best regards,
Daniel

On 11/14/25 12:57 AM, Paola Di Maio wrote:
> Thank you  Daniel
> I can see what the problem is
> You havent got a clue :-)
> But you are willing to lern right?
> and you have a powerful machine at your fingertips right?
>
> You have to enrol in one of my courses... or do self study
> Let me point you in the right direction, but please note,
> I do charge tuition fees
>
> For today if you like, please give a ten minute overview
>
> provide a state of the art review of 'spatial ontology' including
> 1. relevant publications, for example
> http://www.fb10.uni-bremen.de/anglistik/langpro/webspace/jb/repository/downloads/del2.pd
> 2. a list of open vocabularies in the spatial knowledge domain
> 3. a list of VALID use cases
> 4. how does your architecture fit in the picture of existing spatial KR,
>
>
> I am sorry I cannot allocate agenda time to present a vocab which 
> clearly showing... that you are on another planet
> (note: everyone here is another planet as well)
>
> but the demo..... would be okay..... what do you think.... provided it 
> shows some
> capability  related to KR and Spatial domain
>
> I thin, you can have one minute, if the demo is interesting we can 
> spend more time on it
> If it does something else, we ll simpty move on to another topic *lots 
> to discuss
>
> I thank you Daniel, for helping us to figure out that we have a lot of 
> work to be done