Re: AI KR CG Open tasks - a glossary of terms

so we are on for hacking the vocabulary, let's do it
several key concepts and terms are itching to be taken seriously

until now the problem has been that few members of this CG are familiar
with AI KR and obviously there are different points of view

Please ponder careful which term do we need to define that is not yet
captured in existing standards?

1, AI KR terms should not already be defined in existing standards (AI ISO
is obviously lacking in that respect)
or a new/alternative definition should be given with justification
2. The terms should not be generic, relating to AI in general or other
domain,  but specific to AI KR
(so no stratml terms because we do not need to duplicate)
3. sources, use cases should be included

We already have a protostump here,
https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/welcome/ai-kr-task-list/vocabulary/
 but the entries so far are not particular focussed so I am going to reset
both the entry forms and the spreadsheets and merge them, please wait until
I share the new form before entering new terms, keeping in mind they should
be AI KR terms with sources and justification for adding them/ wait for the
new form please.

we can have a discussion before publishing v1
we should limit the vocabulary to essential key terms for AI KR

Milton: we need to focus on the essence of AI KR, like truth preservation
or we need to drill down existing terms for example
integrity (in ISO) is very broad, there are different kinds of integrity
(so we can work on narrowing the terms to model integrity, for exampl, vs
system integrity etc)

Owen: good start with chatgpt, I also love to tinker with it please be
reminded that you need to check every output, I have stated requesting
sources, for each output (please add source to vocabulary entries)  but we
can keep your conversation live for research support, I did not know Claude.

On Thu, Nov 28, 2024 at 6:05 PM Owen Ambur <owen.ambur@verizon.net> wrote:

> I'm thankful for services that make these concepts pretty comprehensible:
>
> ChatGPT - Knowledge Representation Glossary
> <https://chatgpt.com/share/67489f7f-9158-800e-95aa-cfda27f1c8ec>
>
> ChatGPT - Knowledge Representation Glossary
>
> Shared via ChatGPT
> <https://chatgpt.com/share/67489f7f-9158-800e-95aa-cfda27f1c8ec>
>
> Claude <https://claude.ai/chat/ed6db30a-9c5a-425d-9133-7b527238e87b>
>
> Claude
>
> Talk with Claude, an AI assistant from Anthropic
> <https://claude.ai/chat/ed6db30a-9c5a-425d-9133-7b527238e87b>
>
> Will look forward to learning what value we humans in the loop can add to
> what is already known, particularly with respect to how we can achieve our
> objectives more efficiently and effectively.
>
> Happy thanksgiving.
>
> Owen Ambur
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/owenambur/
>
>
> On Thursday, November 28, 2024 at 10:09:40 AM EST, Milton Ponson <
> rwiciamsd@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Here is where we need to paint a large panoramic picture on a canvas of
> all elements from different disciplines.
>
> In order to do so we must canvass every single discipline involved.
>
> Like the physical canvassing of a neighborhood in our case we must
> systematically research by using systematic reviews, literature reviews and
> investigate standards which use glossaries or ontologies to come up with
> the elements for the big picture.
>
> It would be useful to come up with both formal and operational definitions
> of what constitutes knowledge and in which domains of discourse we want to
> do so.
>
> Milton Ponson
> Rainbow Warriors Core Foundation
> CIAMSD Institute-ICT4D Program
> +2977459312
> PO Box 1154, Oranjestad
> Aruba, Dutch Caribbean
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 28, 2024 at 3:13 AM Paola Di Maio <paoladimaio10@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Milton, thank you
>
> It would be good to pick the KR terms which may not be present in AI, or
> that are present in AI terms but specifically refer to KR
> Adding to the challenge. Is there any term missing from the standard AI
> glossaries that belong to KR?
> For example many of the terms in the slides I sent earlier are not
> included, and there are many other KR terms and concepts
> abstraction , knowledge representation
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 28, 2024 at 8:02 AM Milton Ponson <rwiciamsd@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> You may want to look at:
> ISO/IEC DIS 22989(en)
> Information technology — Artificial intelligence — Artificial intelligence
> concepts and terminology
> https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:std:iso-iec:22989:dis:ed-1:v1:en
>
> The problem I have with KR for AI is that so many fields are converging in
> research on AI and KR for AI, and cognitive scientists, computational
> biologists, computer scientists, mathematicians and philosophers do not
> necessarily speak the same language.
>
> This is evident for reference management and bibliographical data
> management in scientific publications, but when we get down to talking
> about knowledge it gets very murky.
>
> Another source is:
>
> https://publications.jrc.ec.europa.eu/repository/bitstream/JRC129614/JRC129614_01.pdf
>
> Milton Ponson
> Rainbow Warriors Core Foundation
> CIAMSD Institute-ICT4D Program
> +2977459312
> PO Box 1154, Oranjestad
> Aruba, Dutch Caribbean
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 9:15 PM Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Greetings AI KR CG
>
> In case someone is up for doing some homework, I think our KR glossary of
> core terms could be useful if improved
> even to a minimal set
>
> Today I struggled to remind myself and what ATMS stands for. Biological
> hard drives do deprecate
>
> 1. JTMS (Justification-based Truth Maintenance Systems)
> John Doyle “A Truth Maintenance System”, Artificial Intelligence
> 12:231-272, 1979.
> 2. ATMS (Assumption-based Truth Maintenance Systems)
> Johan de Kleer, “An assumption-based TMS”, Artificial Intelligence,
> 28:127–162,
> 1986
>
> https://elearning.di.unipi.it/pluginfile.php/19734/mod_resource/content/3/KRR-3.pdf
>
> I d like to finalize a glossary of terms in the next few months, and
> publish it as a resource
> Studying terminology is an excellent path to learning
> anyone willing to study, learn and share their knowledge, please start
> annotating on the wiki
> thank you
>
> https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/wiki/Main_Page
>
>