- From: Peter Rivett <pete.rivett@federatedknowledge.com>
- Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2023 23:29:57 +0000
- To: W3C AIKR CG <public-aikr@w3.org>
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Paola, To continue your theme I'd say that AI is really just exposing the underlying problem which goes back more like a decade and is rooted in the notion of "alternative facts" being deployed as microtargeted information warfare either by internal https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/may/07/the-great-british-brexit-robbery-hijacked-democracy or external https://epjdatascience.springeropen.com/articles/10.1140/epjds/s13688-023-00414-5 actors . IMO bad actors, rather than invading with an army, are using misinformation to cause our societies to fragment from within https://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article/singer-weaponization-social-media/ and https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/04/16/russia-disinformation-discord-leaked-documents/ and defund Ukraine or withdraw from alliances such as NATO. And no, that strategy is not published in StratML 🙂 We now have people more motivated by facts that align with their own agenda than with facts having some sort of verifiable truth. As examples you only have to look at the vilification of the mainstream press and scientists, anti-intellectualism, promotion of alternative "scientists" e.g. pushing horse pills, and belief in elections being stolen. The bad facts might have been less noticeable when everyone is their own self-reinforcing information bubble, but AI, trained on the whole of the internet surfaces the totality even for audiences they were not targeted at. Therein might lie the start of a solution. Key for me in KR is not only the machine readable semantics but also the element of trust: where, and from whom, did the information originate, how has it been verified, and what is its chain of custody (who has passed it on)? Lack of that won't stop unsubstantiated falsehoods spreading in their own bubbles but it could be used to filter information used for AI training. Not to mention filtering out AI-generated content to avoid model collapse https://www.techtarget.com/whatis/feature/Model-collapse-explained-How-synthetic-training-data-breaks-AI. Information warfare, of a more subtle kind, is also applicable to the commercial as well as the enterprise sphere: if training data is tweaked in a subtle way (e.g. a percent or two) it can have a large overall impact on decision making over time. Season's Greetings, Pete Pete Rivett (pete.rivett@federatedknowledge.com) Federated Knowledge, LLC (LEI 98450013F6D4AFE18E67) tel: +1-701-566-9534 Schedule a meeting at https://calendly.com/rivettp ________________________________ From: Owen Ambur <owen.ambur@verizon.net> Sent: Friday, December 22, 2023 10:02 AM To: W3C AIKR CG <public-aikr@w3.org> Subject: Re: End of year reader, holiday Greetings, the old web Milton, your message prompted me to Google these references: https://www.parc.com/blog/half-human-half-computer-meet-the-modern-centaur/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbescoachescouncil/2023/06/29/how-servant-leadership-can-help-you-navigate-the-digital-era/?sh=783c6caa5cc2 You can guess what your words "open, accountable, explainable, trustworthy, safe, ethical and accessible" imply to me. I'll look forward to seeing the outline for your course ... and perhaps rendering it in StratML format. Owen Ambur https://www.linkedin.com/in/owenambur/ On Friday, December 22, 2023 at 11:09:39 AM EST, ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program <metadataportals@yahoo.com> wrote: As a mathematician, computer scientist and applied engineering researcher whose alter ego is a Madhyamaka Middle Way Buddhist philosopher cum thirty year veteran global sustainable development lobbyist I am aware of both the good and bad developments of the last thirty years. We are between a rock and a hard place right now, that's for sure but we have the tools, technologies, means and resolve to tackle almost all of the problems facing us. Right now AI is the main problem, it needs to be regulated and the data mining that serves as the base for LLMs and other forms of AI needs to be controlled. The European Union with its GDPR, Digital Services Act and EU AI act is reigning in some blatant misuse of data and personalization algorithms. I am myself a staunch proponent of two paradigms for AI, either the centaur model or the digital servant, and where the latter takes the form of a physical unit like a robot with some Laws of Robotics baked in. These two forms, which should be open, accountable, explainable, trustworthy, safe, ethical and accessible to all are needed to solve global problems caused by climate change and numerous other natural and man-made problems afflicting us. Mathematicians, computer scientists, engineers, psychologists, computational biologists, neuroscientists and philosophers are key players in resolving issues that have changed the web of discovery from the early days of the Internet (late nineties and early twenty first century years) into a web of deceit, confusion, misinformation, manipulation, surveillance and control. It won't be easy, but it is not impossible, and to put it into a mission critical perspective, "failure is not an option". The holiday season brings a much needed break, and I will also be doing some reading, but mostly philosophy. I agree totally with Paola that AI without KR is going to be not manageable. Maybe we can think about setting up an outline for an introductory online course "KR for AI: an introduction to formal methods of knowledge representation for open, accountable, explainable, trustworthy, safe, ethical and accessible to all AI." And in this introduce neuroscience, philosophy, psychology, mathematics, computer science and computational biology perspectives. By creating this outline we are making all the mentioned disciplines pull resources and thought processes together and explore and define the common ground needed to create the KR for AI we envisioned in the AIKR Community Group. And for such an online course written course material could also be produced with chapters structured around a general line of discourse and the review of basic concepts from the perspectives of the various disciplines mentioned. I wish everyone all the best for the coming holidays and the new year, and look forward to continue the valuable work the AIKR W3 Community Group and all other W3 Community Groups are doing in 2024. Milton Ponson GSM: +297 747 8280 PO Box 1154, Oranjestad Aruba, Dutch Caribbean Project Paradigm: Bringing the ICT tools for sustainable development to all stakeholders worldwide through collaborative research on applied mathematics, advanced modeling, software and standards development On Friday, December 22, 2023 at 07:29:29 AM AST, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com> wrote: Greetings W3C AI KR CG cc SWIG (FYI), (you may skip the rant and go straight to the links ) not sure how many here are in festive joyous mode. Things are tough, a lot are falling apart everywhere.Incomprehensible, logically inconsistent layers of data and processes that cannot be understood let alone verified. Facts that contradict each other, sources that are not accountable. Things that do not follow, what is false but said to be true pervades our systems, our lives. With awful things happening between the cracks. I am glad we have an AI KR CG because we can maintain and share a long thread of issues pivotal not only to AI, which is driving scientific and technological progress across the board. but also pivotal to our cognitive processes, which are central to maintaining our mental health https://mhcc.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/2016.02.17._supporting_cognitive_functioning-_mhcc_version__v._11__.pdf How long can people continue to maintain their sense of purpose, direction and orientation without KR, in this otherwise flimsical world. I ll be brief with my season's greetings and just take the opportunity to share the xmas holiday reader for those who are still learning (most of us, I hope) 1. This NYT article<https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/13/upshot/long-covid-disability.html> mentions that AMERICANS are under a cognitive fog, Oh Well. Not just americans. From my perspective, being persistently deceived by the media, and now by the internet, presented with fragmented inconsistent logic is designed to break people's ability to think. It is called mind wrecking and it is a well established tactic of psychological abuse. It is easier to break people when they are disoriented One the one hand we have been building open data, the open web, open standards. the common good, on the other hand we are being consistently ruled and driven by adversarial approaches (designed to deceive and being dysfunctional) Some think this cognitive fog is being deliberately inflicted to people by folks who know what they are doing and their funding agencies and those who hire them A talk on psychological abuse (PA)<https://sites.google.com/view/psyabu/home> points to how misleading and manipulative information messes up with people and social networks etc . Things can get complicated. The talk is generic about PA but it ends up mentioning the role of KR and AI and possibly the web at large 2. The Atlantic makes a good point: Nobody Knows What’s Happening Online Anymore<https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2023/12/internet-information-trends-virality-tracking/676888> SORRY BEHIND PAYWALL BUT READ THE FIRST FREE PARAGRAPHS TO GET A SENSE and a pointer to 3 3. Follows on from 2, The Verge: AI is killing the old web, and the new web struggles to be born<https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/26/23773914/ai-large-language-models-data-scraping-generation-remaking-web> Santa, can we have the good old web back please Good wishes for 2024 PDM
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