Re: stable diffusion as a DeepFake machine

Yes, all that applies-

Now, that brings the discussion into another space
what is real, and what is fake? especially in contemporary art?

In the art world, authenticity is key, however
in the age of technological reproducibility, what is a fake?

a painting depicting the famous painting of Mona Lisa may be authentic
painting, (workin on it myself)

Number 1 artist in the wrold is Andy Wahrol
He reached fame by replicating a photography of marylin which was in the
public domain
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marilyn_Diptych

I am having success with some of my own replications of generic images
but not yet found fame.

But I have a better story to tell
After digitally manipulating my own art work with software multiple times
to play with possible
outputs

I obtained an imaged which I truly love, I thought, this is it

 Before sending it to the gallery, I wanted
to check that , by chance, it was not too similar to other work out there
and guess what. I have found a lot of other paintings including works
auctioned by Christies
that are very very similar to my digitally enhanced artwork
Now, as an engineer, I have started to think that the digital imaging
manipulation
algorithms offered by software are all very very similar and that many
successful contemporary artists are using them

we need more creative algorithms

I can see why a NN would come handy provided the recipes are kept secret
Ie, if the seed data is not known, and if the configuration of the
convolution is not known
nobody will be able to prove that the painting has been made by the algo
I understand why I need one a nn to help me produce unique art work

PDM

On Sat, Oct 29, 2022 at 12:02 PM Adeel <aahmad1811@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> You can also use styleGAN to create fake faces, or even fake paintings.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Adeel
>
> On Sat, 29 Oct 2022 at 04:48, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dave R shared on the cogai mailing list a link to Stabled Diffusion
>> https://huggingface.co/spaces/stabilityai/stable-diffusion
>> It is one of the many many versions available apparently,
>> I played with it and commented on a related post
>>
>> Totally by synchronicity in the very remote village I live in, last night
>> I walked into someone random  (feeding the village cats) and the topic of
>> stable diffusion came up, I was told  Its becoming very popular, in
>> different flavours, although some people are upset  apparently
>>
>> It is relevant to KR
>>
>> From a AI KR perspective, however innocent fun Stable_Diffiusion may be,
>> its output can be misleading, By not exposing the source data and algorithm
>> to generate the image, its outcome can be used to mislead people into
>> thinking this is some kind of original artwork
>>
>> In a good world, this can be amusing and intriguing
>>
>> In our wicked world, Deepfakes are used maliciously
>> In the media
>> https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-42912529
>>
>> In the scholarly literature, the CNN behind the mechanism
>> https://arxiv.org/abs/1905.00582
>>
>> Only KR can  identify, expose and prevent deepfakes
>>
>