Re: Using Frames in Machine Learning

Hay, thanks for reply
I mention frames because a lot of ML folks do not know about them
I am interested in how they are useful/necessary to achieve
neurosymbolic integration
Please give us a brief walkthrough of your examples in relation to
what we could do
In particular, I am aiming to create an open/web standard (a vocabulary?)
to facilitate neurosymbolic integration
already have some working examples, trying to make them
intelligible so that I can share them in call sometime

PDM

On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 12:15 PM Adeel <aahmad1811@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I think that would be only a fraction of approaches that could be used for
> KR.
> However, AI would have to be an integrated solution of multiple
> approaches - symbolic + sub-symbolic learning that sits basically as
> an in-between engine of representation learning, reasoning, and
> probabilistic learning methods.
>
> An integrated AI solution would be something like clarion, 4caps,
> act-r, aixi, calo, cojack, epic, ikon, impala, lida, nars, oscar,
> soar, society of mind, subsumption etc. that take inspirations in
> cognitive abstractions.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Adeel
>
>
>
> On Thu, 28 Jul 2022 at 04:53, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > I am not that old really, but I learned AI before the current
> > generation. You may call me old school in that respect.
> >
> > In my continued effort to catch up with and get to the bottom of the
> current AI KR challenges, I get to share glimpses with this CG
> >
> > The direction being pursued at the moment, briefly discussed with
> Richard Lea, is a possible standard for neurosymbolic integration using a
> card approach
> >
> > I have been developing model cards and I am finalizing a chapter for
> Taylor and Francis (accepted) where I propose the novel approach, and a
> possible way forward  for standardization here if we have enough members to
> promote the CG to WG
> >
> > To advance this proposal it is necessary obviously that interested
> participants are at a minimum familiar with AI KR
> > (artificial intelligence knowledge representation) core concepts, such
> as frames
> >
> > Two seminal reference papers I d like interested folks to read before we
> can discuss the current developments
> >
> > A Framework for Representing Knowledge -
> >
> > M Minsky · 1974
> > AVAILABLE ONLINE
> >
> > AND
> > Studies in Cognitive Science
> > 1975, FRAME REPRESENTATIONS AND THE DECLARATIVE/PROCEDURAL
> CONTROVERSYTerryWinograd
> > I can share my copy for those interested
> >
> > future discussions will rely on the understanding of
> > these papers
> >
> > P
>