Re: Community Council Group

Activity tracking is about tracking CHANGE  ....  tracking is certainly a
contributing factor in building & maintaining trust in AI KR  ... and  in
the AIKRCG  we have come to understand that StratMl provides a foundational
taxonomy for publishing  planned events / phases
activity factors
<https://www.w3.org/community/council/wiki/ActivityTracking> Events taxonomy
proposed

   - created
   - closed
   - supported
   - description updated
   -

Phases

   - Phase I: Architecture/data modeling
   - Phase II: Create core (gathering, aggregation)
   - Phase III: Create listeners for different tool types
   - Phase IV: Testing, demonstration of scalability
   - Phase V: Integration



cheers

Carl Mattocks

co-chair AIKRCG
It was a pleasure to clarify


On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 12:47 PM Peter Shikli <pshikli@access2online.com>
wrote:

> Owen,
>
> Do you suppose there may be an intersection between some of the activity
> factors <https://www.w3.org/community/council/wiki/ActivityTracking> Ian
> Jacobs identified and StratML?  My interest isn't so much whether a W3C
> group is being run well as much as whether it is being run at all.  To
> track that, W3C needs some automated backend software that monitors how
> many events a group schedules, for example, along with the dates of
> blog/wiki posts and the other Ian factors.  To collect such data manually
> about 345 groups is a dead end.
>
> I'm hoping whatever group management software W3C uses has some of that
> tucked away somewhere.
>
> Cheers,
> Peter
>
>
> Owen Ambur wrote on 9/20/2020 8:10 AM:
>
> Peter, for some of us, the W3C began to take on an odor when it stopped
> supporting its own XML Recommendation, but we haven't necessarily given up
> hope.
>
> To me, your message is a requirements statement for StratML. If each W3C
> group were publishing its plans and reports in such an open, standard,
> machine-readable format, it would be easy to keep track of their "health"
> (whether they are "alive" and, if so, what evidence exists).
>
> Do you think we might have the basis for joint, productive effort along
> these lines?  For example, if we were to form a W3C CG for the purpose of
> promoting inclusion of the elements of StratML in Schema.org, do you think
> we should also aim to render in StratML format the plans of each of the
> other W3C groups, and if so, would you like to participate?
>
> I'm copying those who have expressed interest in participating in such a
> group (as well as a few others who might have value to add to such an
> endeavor).
>
> BTW, I sent a message to Dan Brickley inquiring whether he thinks it might
> make sense to include StratML elements in Schema.org for usage in website
> "about us" statements, perhaps starting with <Mission
> <https://stratml.us/references/urn_ISO_std_iso_17469_tech_xsd_stratml_core.html#Mission>>.
> Haven't heard back from him yet ... but hope springs eternal
> <https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/our-emotional-footprint/201604/hope-springs-eternal>
> .
>
> Owen
> On 9/19/2020 10:26 PM, Peter Shikli wrote:
>
> Owen,
>
> My company is a new W3C member, so I've been looking at the many W3C
> groups to see where we may fit.  I noticed that among the duties of the
> Community Council is the undefined "Health-checks on existing Community
> Groups". This duty does not appear to be functioning, possibly because no
> one is responsible for the health check of the Community Council group
> itself.  I saw no activity in this group since 2016.  This appears to have
> led to a unmonitored atrophy of many of the 345 groups under the W3C flag.
> Someone exploring or joining one of these neglected groups may draw the
> incorrect conclusion that the W3C as a whole is losing interest, activity,
> or relevance.
>
> In 2012, Ian Jacobs appears to have attempted to solve this problem by
> defining and then tracking
> <https://www.w3.org/community/council/wiki/ActivityTracking> the level of
> activity of W3C groups. A comprehensive and valuable reporting system that
> appears abandoned because of its complexity.
>
> If I chaired this Community Council, I would dust off Ian's activity
> tracker with a view to what activity metrics can be reported automatically,
> and what few essential metrics must be reported monthly by each group's
> chair. A subset of these activity metrics should accompany a group's
> listing <https://www.w3.org/community/groups/>.  The Community Council
> could then present a monthly trend analysis to W3C management, with
> remediation and housekeeping recommendations.
>
> The StratML standard seems like a great way to define inter-organizational
> communication, but my sense is that this Community Council Group and a
> great many W3C groups have stopped communicating in any form.  If W3C
> management doesn't find a way to bury the dead, the place is going to smell
> bad.
>
> Cheers,
> Peter
>
>
> Owen Ambur wrote on 9/19/2020 5:31 PM:
>
> Hey, Peter, I'm not sure how you got the impression that I chair the W3C's
> Community Council Group.  I haven't seen any evidence of its activities and
> had even forgot that I had joined it.  However, I see that the mailing list
> is available via a link at https://www.w3.org/groups/cg/council/tools
>
> My interest is "communities" is documented at
> https://connectedcommunity.net/  While I believe the W3C could benefit by
> applying the StratML standard (ISO 17469-1), I haven't seen any evidence of
> willingness to do so.
>
> It has been suggested that we form a W3C CG to foster inclusion of the
> elements of the StratML standard in Schema.org, but I'm not sure that there
> is sufficient support or that such a proposal would be well received.
>
> I hope this information is helpful.  If you see prospects for
> collaboration, please let me know.
> Owen
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/owenambur/
>
>
> On 9/19/2020 1:28 PM, Peter Shikli wrote:
>
> Mr. Ambur,
>
> We're new W3C members, and I have an interest in W3C communities.  So it
> is that I joined the Community Council Group
> <https://www.w3.org/groups/cg/council> that you chair. I don't see any
> archives, blogs, events planned, or signs of activity -- quite possibly
> because I'm new to W3C and don't know where to look.
>
> Do you have any tips on how best to participate in your group?
>
> Cheers,
> Peter Shikli
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