- From: carl mattocks <carlmattocks@gmail.com>
- Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 09:31:43 -0500
- To: ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program <metadataportals@yahoo.com>
- Cc: Owen Ambur <owen.ambur@verizon.net>, Paola Di Maio <paoladimaio10@gmail.com>, Pradeep Jain <pradeep.jain@ictect.com>, Ronald Reck <rreck@rrecktek.com>, W3C AIKR CG <public-aikr@w3.org>
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All AIKR : Regarding CL - as a candidate for our curated list of normative/non-normative reference material - please review the paper that speaks to a CL extension of RULEML http://ruleml.org/papers/AthanDissertation/AthanGISDissertation2011.pdf XCLX: An XML-based Common Logic eXtension with Embedded Geography Markup Language I will send a follow on 'vote please' email after January 31 thanks for your participation Carl Mattocks CarlMattocks@WellnessIntelligence.Institute It was a pleasure to clarify On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 4:39 PM ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program < metadataportals@yahoo.com> wrote: > Can I suggest we stick to StratML and CL which is the basis for conceptual > structures (see http://www.jfsowa.com/pubs/cg4cs.pdf)? > > This way we know we are applying standards in the to be developed general > common frame of reference for AI and KR. > > Will get back on this and my mission statemennt. > > Milton Ponson > GSM: +297 747 8280 > PO Box 1154, Oranjestad > Aruba, Dutch Caribbean > Project Paradigm: Bringing the ICT tools for sustainable development to > all stakeholders worldwide through collaborative research on applied > mathematics, advanced modeling, software and standards development > > > On Tuesday, January 7, 2020, 12:49:24 AM AST, Paola Di Maio < > paoladimaio10@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Owen > > The whole purpose of life is about making aspirations true, compatibly > with everything else > > I think a small demo of an automated agents that monitors certain key > parameters written in xml is perfectly feasible, given a set of rules, > , as a proof of concept > I generally only do only what is within my immediate reach > Here is a way it could be done: > have a parameter set of CG overall goals, > for each member have a set of actions contributing to CG goals > run the agent periodically to check the status of the actions against the > goals > I am fairly sure we can find a 10 years old to help us write it :-) > > Large scale real world implementations may not be feasible > because too many people need to be consulted, and too many people > have conflicting views, and there is too much speculation and profiteering > Technologies that dont cost much (other than server and developer time > perhaps) > tend not to be popular > > So lets think of implementing a working prototype and surely it will take > shape at some point. > At a minimum, as they used to say, we can prove that we can eat our own > dog food :-0D > > > > > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 11:14 AM Owen Ambur <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net> wrote: > > Please, Paola, stop. You're about to put me over the edge. > > I've long been dreaming about engaging a bunch of students in a brigade to > do for public agencies what they should be doing for themselves, i.e., > publishing their performance plans and reports in an open, standard, > machine-readable format like StratML. While I've been hoping it might > happen in India, I can't imagine the Chinese or Russian government, for > example, would stand for that but, hey, I love to be proven wrong ... about > such delirious dreams. > > Far short of that, it would be wonderful if someone could develop a query > service that leverages the semantics and structure of the StratML schema as > per the requirements outlined at Query/Discovery > <http://stratml.us/carmel/iso/SMLTASwStyle.xml#_15446932-208f-11e6-a80e-7333871eb3cb> > - Enable not only full-text but also faceted querying and discovery of > discrete elements of StratML documents. > > There are more than 4,000 plans in the StratML collection > <http://stratml.us/drybridge/index.htm> that can be used for > demonstration purposes. Hopefully, someday the collection will become too > valuable to ignore or, at least, to treat as any old unstructured > information, as the incumbent full-text indexing services apparently do. > > Owen > On 1/6/2020 9:04 PM, Paola Di Maio wrote: > > :-) lots of features to play with > > ha ha, not sure if I would like an agent to remind me I am behind > with my own goals but technically, neat possibility > > Let's work on the idea of a possible demo implementation/prototype - > > I design web services (workflow, general specs etc), do not write the > implementation code for which generally I pair with a coder > > can find some students who may want to do so, or coud even set out to > spend ten minutes a week towards learning how to implement myself so that > the geeks on this list could either help or slam > > P > > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 9:46 AM Owen Ambur <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net> wrote: > > Don't get me too excited, Paola. I can only stand so much fun. However, > at the risk of becoming delirious, I invite attention to these StratML > tool, app, and service requirements related to monitoring and nudging: > > Goal 7: Analysis > <http://stratml.us/carmel/iso/SMLTASwStyle.xml#_2384f48a-208f-11e6-8dd1-b735871eb3cb> > - Enable automated as well as human assisted analysis > > Goal 11: Deadline Reminders > <http://stratml.us/carmel/iso/SMLTASwStyle.xml#_2384fe08-208f-11e6-8dd1-b735871eb3cb> > - Provide notification of impending end dates for performance indicators > > Goal 15: Partnerships > <http://stratml.us/carmel/iso/SMLTASwStyle.xml#_2385057e-208f-11e6-8dd1-b735871eb3cb> > - Enable potential performance partners to easily identify each other and > cross-reference their common and/or complementary objectives in each > other's respective plans and reports (transformation of the > advertising/marketing paradigm) > > Goal 19: Subscriptions > <http://stratml.us/carmel/iso/SMLTASwStyle.xml#_23850cfe-208f-11e6-8dd1-b735871eb3cb> > - Provide automated notification of changes/updates to goals, objectives > and/or performance indicators of interest to particular stakeholder groups > > Goal 21: Critical Mass > <http://stratml.us/carmel/iso/SMLTASwStyle.xml#_238510c8-208f-11e6-8dd1-b735871eb3cb> > - Enable users to rally around, create networking "bandwagon" effects, > establish critical mass and reach tipping points at which achievement of > goals can be assured (pledges, contributions, referrals, challenges, etc.) > > I'm not smart enough to write the intelligent agents but I'd love to > connect with those who are. > > Owen > On 1/6/2020 8:29 PM, Paola Di Maio wrote: > > Thank you Own > > if we write into the plan our individual proposed actions and goals > we could probably also write some intelligent agent to monitor and nudge > how we are doing against our own targets. could be fun > > PDM > > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 6:17 AM Owen Ambur <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net> wrote: > > I updated my StratML rendition of our plan at > http://stratml.us/carmel/iso/part2/AIKRCGforComment.xml to include the > roles for which we have volunteered (in E-mail messages). > > It would be good if we could more explicitly document our proposed > deliverables as performance indicators under each of our objectives. > > Anyone who may wish to contribute toward that end could use the mailto > links in the plan to address comments to our listserv. > > Owen > On 1/3/2020 3:53 PM, carl mattocks wrote: > > > To help the AI KR progress in 2020 as co-chair I propose to be: > Co-editor of https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/ > Lead editor of an AI KR Element Inventory > Key contributor to AIKR eGovernance documents > > and continue to be a general factotum > > > wishing us all a happy new decade > > Carl Mattocks > > It was a pleasure to clarify > > > On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 10:45 PM Paola Di Maio <paoladimaio10@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Milton > > Glad you like the idea - I am thinking of a handbook that can serve as a > general guidance for different domains, with one version aimed at > egovernance. > > I see the focus egovernance rather than egovernment, but there is a lot of > material > on the latter, that we could abstract from to make it relevant and > generalized to fit the former > > there is still some work to be done in terms of aligning > different knowledge domain, > > also, I am working on a few parallel topics - diverse branches of KR > applications > with several deadlines coming up in the next few months > > thanks for the suggestion of starting a lit review on KR for governance > > Some of the resources I d like to include in a lit review are not > accessible > (started a search some time ago) and still searching for ways to access > them > > However there are some good resources openly accessible > > I started a tag on zotero > > https://www.zotero.org/groups/2351244/knowledge_representation/items/tag/governance > > > please add resources and start drafting whatever inspires you > > I am working on specific aspects of KR for eGov, and will share when > ready, but in the meantime, good idea to start gathering the field > > > PDM > On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 12:39 AM ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program < > metadataportals@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Dear members of the AIKR CG. I am particularly interested in the issue of > AI and KR for eGovernance and eGovernment. > The UNCAC (United Nationas Convention Against Corruption) and AML/CFT > treaties (anti money laundering/combating financing of terrorism) are very > specific in compliance and thus governance, but everything else is still > vague including what should constitute corporate, social, environmental, > human rights and sustainable development governance and the Sustainable > Development Goals do not in particular help clearly define governance. > > > In fact there is no clear definition of the boundaries, overlapping issues > and distinction between legislation/law enforcement/compliance, moral > conduct, ethical conduct/codes, corporate governance/rules of conduct, > governance/guidelines. > > Thus eGovernance is highly context sensitive, which makes the KR very > important and the AI component determining the context/environment very > important as well. > > What would be very useful is some essays on how to map from a generalized > set of concepts and ontologies onto the currently more familiar areas of > legislation, legal guidelines, ethical codes of conduct and the various > forms of more or less well established corporate, social and environmental > governance. > > A useful starting point would be to do a literature review on ontologies > and indicators for governance. > > Again, very good idea the eBook on AI and KR for eGovernance. > > Milton Ponson > GSM: +297 747 8280 > PO Box 1154, Oranjestad > Aruba, Dutch Caribbean > Project Paradigm: Bringing the ICT tools for sustainable development to > all stakeholders worldwide through collaborative research on applied > mathematics, advanced modeling, software and standards development > > > [deleted] > >
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